# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173
**Category:** Thread Games
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16122 "2013-04-29T14:03:34Z")

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People whose names only utilize one vowel:

1. Ellen Degeneres
2. Donny Osmond
3. Alan Alda
4. Adam Ant
5. Cher
6. Jack Black
7. Bono
8. Tim Smith (I wanted to find an “I”)
9. Yoko Ono
10. Zhu Yu (and I wanted to find a “U”)
11. Bart Starr
12. Helen Keller

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### Author: ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16123 "2013-04-29T14:07:57Z")

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People whose names only utilize one vowel:

1. Ellen Degeneres
2. Donny Osmond
3. Alan Alda
4. Adam Ant
5. Cher
6. Jack Black
7. Bono
8. Tim Smith (I wanted to find an “I”)
9. Yoko Ono
10. Zhu Yu (and I wanted to find a “U”)
11. Bart Starr
12. Helen Keller
13. Tom Ford  
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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16124 "2013-04-29T14:13:23Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886

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### Author: ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16125 "2013-04-29T14:17:13Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893

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### Author: ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16126 "2013-04-29T14:32:47Z")

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Are my posts not showing up? 😕

Post 16100 for Jean Claude Killy  
Post 16114 for Pat Sajak (considering his occupation, that has to be the definitive answer for a one vowel name) 😃

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16127 "2013-04-29T14:35:35Z")

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notfrommensa. Your posts ARE showing up. BUT you got ninja’d, twice, which means someone else posted at the same time you did, and that post showed up just after yours, which means, in a fast-paced game such as Baker’s Dozen happens to be today, yours were overlooked. Keep trying.

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### Author: ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16128 "2013-04-29T14:36:10Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Are my posts not showing up? 😕
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> Post 16100 for Jean Claude Killy  
> Post 16114 for Pat Sajak (considering his occupation, that has to be the definitive answer for a one vowel name) 😃

Apparently Annie’s posting and then not checking if she’s been Ninja’d. That’s what happened here. You Ninja’d her both times.

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### Author: ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16129 "2013-04-29T14:38:28Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> notfrommensa. Your posts ARE showing up. BUT you got ninja’d, twice, which means someone else posted at the same time you did, and that post showed up just after yours, which means, in a fast-paced game such as Baker’s Dozen happens to be today, yours were overlooked. Keep trying.

Actually, it’s **Annie** who got ninja’d by **notfrommensa**. It’s considerate to check if, after one posts, that s/he check to see if they got ninja’d, and correct their post. It happens…

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### Author: ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16130 "2013-04-29T14:39:28Z")

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Gee And I thought I was doing the Ninja-ing.

German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893
4. Metal Detector: Gerhard Fischer, 1931

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### Author: ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16131 "2013-04-29T14:40:11Z")

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Sorry about that **notfrommensa**. And I love the Pat Sajak answer!

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### Author: ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16132 "2013-04-29T14:45:18Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893
4. Metal Detector: Gerhard Fischer, 1931
5. Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion: Johannes Kepler, ca. early 1600s

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16133 "2013-04-29T14:51:16Z")

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Seein’ as this here’s the Straight Dope, and nitpickin’ is standard operatin’ policy:  
Kepler’s Laws were a discovery, not an invention.

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### Author: ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16134 "2013-04-29T15:20:35Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893
4. Metal Detector: Gerhard Fischer, 1931
5. Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion: Johannes Kepler, ca. early 1600s \*also invented an improved refracting telescope, the [Keplerian Telescope](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keplerian_Telescope#Keplerian_Telescope)
6. chainsaws: Andreas Stihl, 1926

- added an invention of Kepler

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16135 "2013-04-29T16:13:44Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893
4. Metal Detector: Gerhard Fischer, 1931
5. Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion: Johannes Kepler, ca. early 1600s \*also invented an improved refracting telescope, the Keplerian Telescope
6. chainsaws: Andreas Stihl, 1926
7. Nitrogen fixation: Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch, 1909-1913

Not as famous as some, but one of the most important inventions of the 20th century.

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16136 "2013-04-29T16:17:08Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893
4. Metal Detector: Gerhard Fischer, 1931
5. Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion: Johannes Kepler, ca. early 1600s \*also invented an improved refracting telescope, the Keplerian Telescope
6. chainsaws: Andreas Stihl, 1926
7. Nitrogen fixation: Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch, 1909-1913
8. Air bag: Walter Linderer, 1951

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16137 "2013-04-29T16:25:42Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893
4. Metal Detector: Gerhard Fischer, 1931
5. Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion: Johannes Kepler, ca. early 1600s \*also invented an improved refracting telescope, the Keplerian Telescope
6. chainsaws: Andreas Stihl, 1926
7. Nitrogen fixation: Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch, 1909-1913
8. Air bag: Walter Linderer, 1951
9. Diesel engine - Rudolf Diesel, 1897

Diesel was born in Paris to German expatriate parents, but was educated in Germany and did his work there.

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### Author: ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16138 "2013-04-29T16:31:06Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893
4. Metal Detector: Gerhard Fischer, 1931
5. Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion: Johannes Kepler, ca. early 1600s \*also invented an improved refracting telescope, the Keplerian Telescope
6. chainsaws: Andreas Stihl, 1926
7. Nitrogen fixation: Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch, 1909-1913
8. Air bag: Walter Linderer, 1951
9. Diesel engine - Rudolf Diesel, 1897
10. Movable type printing press: Johannes Gutenberg

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### Author: ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16139 "2013-04-29T16:31:48Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893
4. Metal Detector: Gerhard Fischer, 1931
5. Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion: Johannes Kepler, ca. early 1600s \*also invented an improved refracting telescope, the Keplerian Telescope
6. chainsaws: Andreas Stihl, 1926
7. Nitrogen fixation: Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch, 1909-1913
8. Air bag: Walter Linderer, 1951
9. Diesel engine - Rudolf Diesel, 1897 Diesel was born in Paris to German expatriate parents, but was educated in Germany and did his work there.
10. Aspirin- Felix Hoffman (Bayer Co. chemist)

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16140 "2013-04-29T17:33:55Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893
4. Metal Detector: Gerhard Fischer, 1931
5. Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion: Johannes Kepler, ca. early 1600s \*also invented an improved refracting telescope, the Keplerian Telescope
6. chainsaws: Andreas Stihl, 1926
7. Nitrogen fixation: Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch, 1909-1913
8. Air bag: Walter Linderer, 1951
9. Diesel engine - Rudolf Diesel, 1897 Diesel was born in Paris to German expatriate parents, but was educated in Germany and did his work there.
10. Aspirin- Felix Hoffman (Bayer Co. chemist)
11. Coffee filter - Melitta Bentz, 1908

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/16141 "2013-04-29T17:54:25Z")

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German Inventions and their Inventors (optional: include year)

1. Motorcycle: Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, 1885
2. Hole punch AND ring binder: Friedrich Soennecken, 1886
3. Zeppelin: Ferdinand von Zeppelin, 1893
4. Metal Detector: Gerhard Fischer, 1931
5. Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion: Johannes Kepler, ca. early 1600s \*also invented an improved refracting telescope, the Keplerian Telescope
6. chainsaws: Andreas Stihl, 1926
7. Nitrogen fixation: Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch, 1909-1913
8. Air bag: Walter Linderer, 1951
9. Diesel engine - Rudolf Diesel, 1897 Diesel was born in Paris to German expatriate parents, but was educated in Germany and did his work there.
10. Aspirin- Felix Hoffman (Bayer Co. chemist)
11. Coffee filter - Melitta Bentz, 1908
12. Clarinet - Johann Christoph Denner, circa 1700

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