# Bakers Dozen

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1641 "2010-10-21T15:48:42Z")

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Animal Deities (and other divine figures)

1. Ganesha - Hindu elephant god
2. Anubis - Egyptian god of the dead
3. Coyote the Trickster - Deity of various Native American tribes
4. Apis - Egyptian Bull Deity
5. Pan - Greek god of shepherds, flocks and other stuff; half-goat
6. Quetzlcoatl - Mesoamerican feathered serpent deity
7. [Saint Christopher](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Christopher) - often depicted with the head of a dog.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1642 "2010-10-21T15:52:22Z")

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Animal Deities (and other divine figures)

1. Ganesha - Hindu elephant god
2. Anubis - Egyptian god of the dead
3. Coyote the Trickster - Deity of various Native American tribes
4. Apis - Egyptian Bull Deity
5. Pan - Greek god of shepherds, flocks and other stuff; half-goat
6. Quetzlcoatl - Mesoamerican feathered serpent deity
7. Saint Christopher - often depicted with the head of a dog
8. Thoth - usually depicted with the head of an ibis or baboon

> **[Thoth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoth)**
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> Thoth (/θoʊθ, toʊt/; from Koinē Greek: Θώθ Thṓth, borrowed from Coptic: Ⲑⲱⲟⲩⲧ Thōout, Egyptian: Ḏḥwtj, the reflex of ḏḥwtj "\[He\] is like the Ibis") is an ancient Egyptian deity. In art, he was often depicted as a man with the head of an ibis or a baboon, animals sacred to him. His feminine counterpart was Seshat, and his wife was Ma'at. He was the god of the moon, wisdom, knowledge, writing, hieroglyphs, science, magic, art and judgment.
> Thoth's chief temple was located in the city of Hermopol...

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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1643 "2010-10-21T15:58:47Z")

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Animal Deities (and other divine figures)

1. Ganesha - Hindu elephant god
2. Anubis - Egyptian god of the dead
3. Coyote the Trickster - Deity of various Native American tribes
4. Apis - Egyptian Bull Deity
5. Pan - Greek god of shepherds, flocks and other stuff; half-goat
6. Quetzlcoatl - Mesoamerican feathered serpent deity
7. Saint Christopher - often depicted with the head of a dog
8. Thoth - usually depicted with the head of an ibis or baboon
9. Hanuman - Hindu ape god

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1644 "2010-10-21T16:03:56Z")

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Animal Deities (and other divine figures)

1. Ganesha - Hindu elephant god
2. Anubis - Egyptian god of the dead
3. Coyote the Trickster - Deity of various Native American tribes
4. Apis - Egyptian Bull Deity
5. Pan - Greek god of shepherds, flocks and other stuff; half-goat
6. Quetzlcoatl - Mesoamerican feathered serpent deity
7. Saint Christopher - often depicted with the head of a dog
8. Thoth - usually depicted with the head of an ibis or baboon
9. Hanuman - Hindu ape god
10. Ungoliant - monstrous otherworldly spider from _The Silmarillion_

> **[Ungoliant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungoliant)**
>
> Ungoliant (Sindarin pronunciation: ​\[ʊŋˈɡɔljant\]) is a fictional character in J. R. R. Tolkien's legendarium, described as an evil spirit in the form of a spider. Her name means "dark spider" in Sindarin. She is mentioned briefly in The Lord of the Rings, and plays a supporting role in The Silmarillion, enabling the Dark Lord Melkor to destroy the Two Trees of Valinor, darkening the world. 
> Her origins are unclear, as Tolkien's writings do not explicitly reveal her nature, other than that she ...

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1645 "2010-10-21T17:00:10Z")

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Animal Deities (and other divine figures)

1. Ganesha - Hindu elephant god
2. Anubis - Egyptian god of the dead
3. Coyote the Trickster - Deity of various Native American tribes
4. Apis - Egyptian Bull Deity
5. Pan - Greek god of shepherds, flocks and other stuff; half-goat
6. Quetzlcoatl - Mesoamerican feathered serpent deity
7. Saint Christopher - often depicted with the head of a dog
8. Thoth - usually depicted with the head of an ibis or baboon
9. Hanuman - Hindu ape god
10. Ungoliant - monstrous otherworldly spider from _The Silmarillion_
11. Anansi - The Man/Spider cunning trickster from West Africa

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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1646 "2010-10-21T17:00:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Animal Deities (and other divine figures)
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> 1. Ungoliant - monstrous otherworldly spider from _The Silmarillion_
> 
> [Ungoliant - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungoliant)

I would take issue with this. The list is not fictional deities.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1647 "2010-10-21T17:07:11Z")

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Animal Deities (and other divine figures)

1. Ganesha - Hindu elephant god
2. Anubis - Egyptian god of the dead
3. Coyote the Trickster - Deity of various Native American tribes
4. Apis - Egyptian Bull Deity
5. Pan - Greek god of shepherds, flocks and other stuff; half-goat
6. Quetzlcoatl - Mesoamerican feathered serpent deity
7. Saint Christopher - often depicted with the head of a dog
8. Thoth - usually depicted with the head of an ibis or baboon
9. Hanuman - Hindu ape god
10. Ungoliant - monstrous otherworldly spider from _The Silmarillion_
11. Anansi - The Man/Spider cunning trickster from West Africa
12. [Grandfather Raven](http://www.fishgap.com/mask/images/Grandfather%20Raven%203.jpg) - Creator diety of the Haida people.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1648 "2010-10-21T17:21:50Z")

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Animal Deities (and other divine figures)

1. Ganesha - Hindu elephant god
2. Anubis - Egyptian god of the dead
3. Coyote the Trickster - Deity of various Native American tribes
4. Apis - Egyptian Bull Deity
5. Pan - Greek god of shepherds, flocks and other stuff; half-goat
6. Quetzlcoatl - Mesoamerican feathered serpent deity
7. Saint Christopher - often depicted with the head of a dog
8. Thoth - usually depicted with the head of an ibis or baboon
9. Hanuman - Hindu ape god
10. Ungoliant - monstrous otherworldly spider from The Silmarillion
11. Anansi - The Man/Spider cunning trickster from West Africa
12. Grandfather Raven - Creator diety of the Haida people.
13. The Caribou Mother - an Inuit deity who represents the source of caribou.

New list: women who have been heads of state.

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1649 "2010-10-21T17:47:40Z")

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New list: women who have been heads of state.

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India

She counts as a head of state, right? I figured we should avoid the issue of heads of government vs heads of state.

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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1650 "2010-10-21T17:57:56Z")

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New list: women who have been heads of state.

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1651 "2010-10-21T17:58:54Z")

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women who have been heads of state.

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60
4. Golda Meir, PM of Israel

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1652 "2010-10-21T18:44:05Z")

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women who have been heads of state.

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60
4. Golda Meir, PM of Israel
5. Margaret Thatcher, PM UK

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1653 "2010-10-21T18:57:51Z")

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Gandhi, Meir and Thatcher were all heads of government, not heads of state (the first two had a president fill that role, while Thatcher of course had a monarch).

Anyhoo…

Women who have been heads of state.

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60
4. Golda Meir, PM of Israel
5. Margaret Thatcher, PM UK
6. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, President of Liberia

> **[Ellen Johnson Sirleaf](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Johnson_Sirleaf)**
>
> Ellen Johnson Sirleaf (born Ellen Eugenia Johnson, 29 October 1938) is a Liberian politician who served as the 24th president of Liberia from 2006 to 2018. Sirleaf was the first elected female head of state in Africa.
> Sirleaf was born in Monrovia to a Gola father and Kru-German mother. She was educated at the College of West Africa. She completed her education in the United States, where she studied at Madison Business College, the University of Colorado Boulder, and Harvard University. She r...

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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1654 "2010-10-21T18:58:18Z")

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women who have been heads of state.

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60
4. Golda Meir, PM of Israel
5. Margaret Thatcher, PM UK
6. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, President of Liberia
7. Isabel Peron, President of Argentina, 1931

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**Author:** ![Rafe\_Hollister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/fbc32d/32.png) [@Rafe\_Hollister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rafe_Hollister)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1655 "2010-10-21T19:01:29Z")

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women who have been heads of state.

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60
4. Golda Meir, PM of Israel
5. Margaret Thatcher, PM UK
6. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, President of Liberia
7. Isabel Peron, President of Argentina, 1931
8. Benazir Bhutto, PM of Pakistan, 1988-1990, 1993-1996

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1656 "2010-10-21T19:05:31Z")

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women who have been heads of state.

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60
4. Golda Meir, PM of Israel
5. Margaret Thatcher, PM UK
6. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, President of Liberia
7. Isabel Peron, President of Argentina, 1974
8. Benazir Bhutto, PM of Pakistan, 1988-1990, 1993-1997
9. Corazon Aquino, President of the Phillipines

Peron was born in 1931.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1657 "2010-10-21T19:07:13Z")

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Bhutto, too, was head of government, not head of state. I know of no country in which a prime minister is head of state.

Women who have been heads of state.

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60
4. Golda Meir, PM of Israel
5. Margaret Thatcher, PM UK
6. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, President of Liberia
7. Isabel Peron, President of Argentina, 1974
8. Benazir Bhutto, PM of Pakistan, 1988-1990, 1993-1996
9. Corazon Aquino, President of the Phillipines
10. Mary McAleese, President of Ireland, 1997-present

> **[Mary McAleese](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_McAleese)**
>
> Mary Patricia McAleese (/ˌmækəˈliːs/ MAK-ə-LEESS; Irish: Máire Pádraigín Mhic Ghiolla Íosa; née Leneghan; born 27 June 1951) is an Irish activist lawyer, academic, author, and former politician who served as the eighth president of Ireland from November 1997 to November 2011. McAleese was first elected as president in 1997, having received the nomination of Fianna Fáil. She succeeded Mary Robinson, making her the second female president of Ireland, and the first woman in the world to succee Mc...

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1658 "2010-10-21T20:17:27Z")

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Women who have been heads of state or heads of government

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60
4. Golda Meir, PM of Israel
5. Margaret Thatcher, PM UK
6. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, President of Liberia
7. Isabel Peron, President of Argentina, 1974 - 1976
8. Benazir Bhutto, PM of Pakistan, 1988-1990, 1993-1996
9. Corazon Aquino, President of the Phillipines
10. Mary McAleese, President of Ireland, 1997-present
11. Vigdis Finnbogadottir, President of Iceland, 1980-1996

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1659 "2010-10-21T21:51:37Z")

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Women who have been heads of state or heads of government

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60
4. Golda Meir, PM of Israel
5. Margaret Thatcher, PM UK
6. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, President of Liberia
7. Isabel Peron, President of Argentina, 1974 - 1976
8. Benazir Bhutto, PM of Pakistan, 1988-1990, 1993-1996
9. Corazon Aquino, President of the Phillipines
10. Mary McAleese, President of Ireland, 1997-present
11. Vigdis Finnbogadottir, President of Iceland, 1980-1996
12. Liliuokalani, Queen Regnant of Hawaii 1891-93

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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/1660 "2010-10-21T22:03:17Z")

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Women who have been heads of state or heads of government

1. Tarja Halonen, President of Finland
2. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India
3. Baudica, Queen of the Celtic tribe who led the uprising against the Romans circa AD 60
4. Golda Meir, PM of Israel
5. Margaret Thatcher, PM UK
6. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, President of Liberia
7. Isabel Peron, President of Argentina, 1974 - 1976
8. Benazir Bhutto, PM of Pakistan, 1988-1990, 1993-1996
9. Corazon Aquino, President of the Phillipines
10. Mary McAleese, President of Ireland, 1997-present
11. Vigdis Finnbogadottir, President of Iceland, 1980-1996
12. Liliuokalani, Queen Regnant of Hawaii 1891-93
13. Queen Elizabeth I, United Kingdom 1558–1603

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