# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 987

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19723 "2013-09-10T14:19:12Z")

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13 mixed drinks based on wine

1. Sangria
2. Mimosa
3. Glogg
4. Buck’s Fizz
5. Death in the Afternoon
6. Spritzer
7. Bellini
8. Kir
9. Zurracapote
10. Tinto de verano
11. American Rose
12. Red Hot Summer

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19724 "2013-09-10T14:27:40Z")

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13 mixed drinks based on wine

1. Sangria
2. Mimosa
3. Glogg
4. Buck’s Fizz
5. Death in the Afternoon
6. Spritzer
7. Bellini
8. Kir
9. Zurracapote
10. Tinto de verano
11. American Rose
12. Red Hot Summer
13. Buzz Bomb

TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19725 "2013-09-10T14:43:26Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19726 "2013-09-10T14:53:39Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on _ **Rhoda** _

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19727 "2013-09-10T14:57:45Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on Rhoda
4. Morn on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (seen but never heard)

I always thought they ought to have given him the last line in the final episode, waving and saying “Goodbye” (the line could be said to another character but really directed at the viewer, kinda-sorta breaking the fourth wall).

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19728 "2013-09-10T14:59:44Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on Rhoda
4. Morn on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (seen but never heard)
5. Maris on Frasier (Never seen or heard)

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19729 "2013-09-10T15:02:24Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on Rhoda
4. Morn on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (seen but never heard)
5. Maris on Frasier (Never seen or heard)
6. Norm Peterson’s wife Vera, on **Cheers!** Never really seen but her legs, hand waving, and was once pie-faced.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19730 "2013-09-10T15:23:18Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on Rhoda
4. Morn on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (seen but never heard)
5. Maris on Frasier (Never seen or heard)
6. Norm Peterson’s wife Vera, on **Cheers!** Never really seen but her legs, hand waving, and was once pie-faced.
7. Bob Sacamano, Seinfeld Kramers buddy referenced in several episodes never seen never heard.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19731 "2013-09-10T15:36:13Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on Rhoda
4. Morn on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (seen but never heard)
5. Maris on Frasier (Never seen or heard)
6. Norm Peterson’s wife Vera, on Cheers! Never really seen but her legs, hand waving, and was once pie-faced.
7. Bob Sacamano, Seinfeld Kramers buddy referenced in several episodes never seen never heard.
8. Sam the receptionist, on Richard Diamond: Private Detective (voice heard, legs only seen)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19732 "2013-09-10T15:46:32Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on Rhoda
4. Morn on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (seen but never heard)
5. Maris on Frasier (Never seen or heard)
6. Norm Peterson’s wife Vera, on Cheers! Never really seen but her legs, hand waving, and was once pie-faced.
7. Bob Sacamano, Seinfeld Kramers buddy referenced in several episodes never seen never heard.
8. Sam the receptionist, on Richard Diamond: Private Detective (voice heard, legs only seen)
9. Wilson, the next-door neighbor on \*\*\*Home Improvement \*\*\*(well, you hear him and you see his eyes, but most of his face is always covered by the privacy fence).

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19733 "2013-09-10T15:57:59Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on Rhoda
4. Morn on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (seen but never heard)
5. Maris on Frasier (Never seen or heard)
6. Norm Peterson’s wife Vera, on Cheers! Never really seen but her legs, hand waving, and was once pie-faced.
7. Bob Sacamano, Seinfeld Kramers buddy referenced in several episodes never seen never heard.
8. Sam the receptionist, on Richard Diamond: Private Detective (voice heard, legs only seen)
9. Wilson, the next-door neighbor on Home Improvement (well, you hear him and you see his eyes, but most of his face is always covered by the privacy fence).
10. Marge the Receptionist, The Dick Van Dyke Show. Never Seen, Heard Once.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19734 "2013-09-10T16:18:04Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on Rhoda
4. Morn on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (seen but never heard)
5. Maris on Frasier (Never seen or heard)
6. Norm Peterson’s wife Vera, on Cheers! Never really seen but her legs, hand waving, and was once pie-faced.
7. Bob Sacamano, Seinfeld Kramers buddy referenced in several episodes never seen never heard.
8. Sam the receptionist, on Richard Diamond: Private Detective (voice heard, legs only seen)
9. Wilson, the next-door neighbor on Home Improvement (well, you hear him and you see his eyes, but most of his face is always covered by the privacy fence).
10. Marge the Receptionist, The Dick Van Dyke Show. Never Seen, Heard Once.
11. Howard’s mom on Big Bang Theory - heard (always screeching) but never seen.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19735 "2013-09-10T16:27:13Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on Rhoda
4. Morn on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (seen but never heard)
5. Maris on Frasier (Never seen or heard)
6. Norm Peterson’s wife Vera, on Cheers! Never really seen but her legs, hand waving, and was once pie-faced.
7. Bob Sacamano, Seinfeld Kramers buddy referenced in several episodes never seen never heard.
8. Sam the receptionist, on Richard Diamond: Private Detective (voice heard, legs only seen)
9. Wilson, the next-door neighbor on Home Improvement (well, you hear him and you see his eyes, but most of his face is always covered by the privacy fence).
10. Marge the Receptionist, The Dick Van Dyke Show. Never Seen, Heard Once.
11. Howard’s mom on Big Bang Theory - heard (always screeching) but never seen.
12. John Beresford Tipton, aka \*\*\*The Millionaire \*\*\*(you heard his voice, but only saw the back of his head)

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19736 "2013-09-10T16:34:04Z")

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TV Characters that are Never Seen or Never Heard or both (or note the exceptions)

1. Darryl and Darryl (never heard in Newhart, the series finale was an exception)
2. Charlie (on Charlie’s Angels)
3. Carlton the doorman (voiced by Lorenzo Music) on Rhoda
4. Morn on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (seen but never heard)
5. Maris on Frasier (Never seen or heard)
6. Norm Peterson’s wife Vera, on Cheers! Never really seen but her legs, hand waving, and was once pie-faced.
7. Bob Sacamano, Seinfeld Kramers buddy referenced in several episodes never seen never heard.
8. Sam the receptionist, on Richard Diamond: Private Detective (voice heard, legs only seen)
9. Wilson, the next-door neighbor on Home Improvement (well, you hear him and you see his eyes, but most of his face is always covered by the privacy fence).
10. Marge the Receptionist, The Dick Van Dyke Show. Never Seen, Heard Once.
11. Howard’s mom on Big Bang Theory - heard (always screeching) but never seen.
12. John Beresford Tipton, aka \*\*\*The Millionaire \*\*\*(you heard his voice, but only saw the back of his head)
13. The dispatcher on Adam-12. (Always heard only.)  
Fictional Bears (Names not required if they don’t have them.)

1. Larry (From Dancing Larry and other books by Daniel Pinkwater)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19737 "2013-09-10T16:37:31Z")

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Fictional Bears (Names not required if they don’t have them.)

1. Larry (From Dancing Larry and other books by Daniel Pinkwater)
2. Dancing Bear (from Captain Kangaroo’s Treasure House)

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19738 "2013-09-10T16:40:10Z")

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Fictional Bears (Names not required if they don’t have them.)

1. Larry (From Dancing Larry and other books by Daniel Pinkwater)
2. Dancing Bear (from Captain Kangaroo’s Treasure House)

1. Smokey the Bear

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19739 "2013-09-10T16:50:26Z")

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Fictional Bears (Names not required if they don’t have them.)

1. Larry (From Dancing Larry and other books by Daniel Pinkwater)
2. Dancing Bear (from Captain Kangaroo’s Treasure House)
3. Smokey the Bear
4. Mr. Bultitude the bear, from C.S. Lewis’ novel _ **That Hideous Strength** _

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19740 "2013-09-10T17:02:35Z")

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Fictional Bears (Names not required if they don’t have them.)

1. Larry (From Dancing Larry and other books by Daniel Pinkwater)
2. Dancing Bear (from Captain Kangaroo’s Treasure House)
3. Smokey the Bear
4. Mr. Bultitude the bear, from C.S. Lewis’ novel That Hideous Strength
5. Paddington Bear

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19741 "2013-09-10T17:02:58Z")

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Fictional Bears (Names not required if they don’t have them.)

1. Larry (From Dancing Larry and other books by Daniel Pinkwater)
2. Dancing Bear (from Captain Kangaroo’s Treasure House)
3. Smokey the Bear
4. Mr. Bultitude the bear, from C.S. Lewis’ novel That Hideous Strength
5. Paddington Bear
6. Radar’s teddybear, M_A_S\*H

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/19742 "2013-09-10T17:08:48Z")

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Fictional Bears (Names not required if they don’t have them.)

1. Larry (From Dancing Larry and other books by Daniel Pinkwater)
2. Dancing Bear (from Captain Kangaroo’s Treasure House)
3. Smokey the Bear
4. Mr. Bultitude the bear, from C.S. Lewis’ novel That Hideous Strength
5. Paddington Bear
6. Radar’s teddybear, M_A_S\*H
7. Mr. Bean’s teddy.

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