# Ban the Pit!!!!!!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2001, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441 "2001-02-07T02:54:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![inor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@inor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inor)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/41 "2001-02-07T04:39:21Z")

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this guy, this fuckin guy-  
i can SEE you sitting back with the little hannibal smile on your face…  
i’m a newbie i know, but i know an occurrence of _a style of fishing wherein one plays out a **baited** hook behind a water craft, said craft traversing said water at a low rate of speed…_  
(not any dictionary, i know, my own words…)  
manana folks  
thanks for way livening up my day

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/42 "2001-02-07T04:40:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*  
> \*\*What’s with the need for warnings? You have a forum called the BBQ Pit. Lurking, you get a sense of what happens here. You see the ugly side of differences of opinion. Nothing is hidden.
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> Occasionally, one pissed off poster says to another, in another forum, “Right, I’ll see you in the Pit.” That’s the equivalent to a “Let’s step outside and settle this sentient being to sentient being.”
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> So why worry about warnings? \*\*

**Ice Wolf** , you are a prime example of what I’m talking about. I most assuredly suggest that when one doper call’s another doper into the pit, he’s not in his mind addressing a sentient human being.

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/43 "2001-02-07T04:41:17Z")

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Gee, **grienspace** , nice shot at turning the conversation away from:

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> \*Originally posted by grienspace \*  
> **my post said nothing about banning the pit.**

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/44 "2001-02-07T04:43:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by grienspace \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by oldscratch \*  
> > \*\*I assume your post to Upham was in reference to him falling for your bait. That’s called trolling and is not allowed here. I’m hoping for a warning here. \*\*
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> You’ve made a serious accusation here {b]oldscratch{/b]. Care to provide evidence of trolling? Of bait ?\*\*

How bout you answer us first, **grien** - what did that post mean? You’ve dodged the question here.

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> **Crunchy Frog** , in all of your 1126 threads, have you ever taken an opposing view to **oldscratch**?\*\*

To be quite honest, I can’t even think of that many threads in which I’ve knowingly interacted with **oldscratch**. Besides, what does that have to do with anything? Maybe **oldie** and I have similar world-views and happen to agree a lot.  
Oh, I see, we’re the Pit Bullies and I’m siding with **oldie** cuz we’re buddies and conspire to gang up on the likes of you in emails and other off-board activities, is that what you’re implying?  
It just so happens that the timing of **oldscratch’s** now-closed thread and then you opening this thread to bitch and whine about Pit Bullies (and admitting that is one of the reasons you opened this thread), is too strong to ignore. You opened this because you think people unfairly ganged up on someone else.

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> So far, no one has debated the merits of of my proposal regarding warnings, which only goes to show what this forum is really all about. \*\*

Whatever, you say THAT’s what this is about. Fine.

Here’s my response to your OP:  
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> People get hurt in the Pit by the Pit Bullies. These bullies can’t seem to respond to logic or gentle persuasion when they are on the attack.\*\*

All opinion and open to interpretation. No facts to debate and no examples given. And no one’s been hurt here. I doubt any physical or emotional trauma received is not so great that a person can’t get over it after a good nap.  
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> Innocent people are lured into the pit where reason and logic gives way to the lawlessness of the pit.\*\*

Bullshit. Nobody is lured here and forced to post. And as for reason and logic giving way, check out this Pit thread which I started that turned out to be a reasoned logical debate and I eventually saw things from another perspective:  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=52409](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=52409)  
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> Behind the scenes, in cyberspace, these bullies pack together and plan their attack.\*\*

Damn, paranoid often are you? You honestly believe we conspire in emails and phone calls to each other on who to gang up on? Nothin to debate here. No fact, all bullshit.

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> Perhaps a notice advising gentle well behaved people that providing an opinion could result in emotional trauma might be in order.\*\*

If anyone is that emotionally fragile, they don’t belong in the Pit in the first place and should heed the forum description that this is the place for flaming.  
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> Also an advisory that the purpose of this forum is not to fight ignorance, but a venting venue for frustration of these pit bullies.\*\*

Whatever. Nothing to debate here either as this is just more of your propaganda.

And FTR, I know what it’s like being on the recieving end of a lynch mob on this board and was even banned for period of time. I’m grown up enough not to whine about it afterwards. How about instead of a warning for the faint of heart, we establish some sort of mandatory maturity level?

So at what point are you going to explain your comment to **Upham**?

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**Author:** ![Upham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Upham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/45 "2001-02-07T04:45:01Z")

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**Hey rat ass** (ie, grien) you’ve yet to answer my question. Are you just fucking around acting as one of these “pit bullies” you seem to think are out to get you might?

It seems right up our alley…

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/46 "2001-02-07T04:47:34Z")

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Don’t worry **grienspace** , Biggirl’s here to protect you. Now, all you bad bullies, stop picking on pieceful, gentle grienspace.

**Upham** , young man. Just because a person is a fucking idiot it does not follow that he is a festering sack of pig jizz.

**oldie** , you should try to be a little more understanding. You _know_ he/she’s full of shit. It stands to reason that he would make a pit thread that is also full of shit. Please show more compassion for those who have an overabundance of shit.

And I certainly did not expect this kind of behavior from a nice young lady like you, **Primaflora**. Mr. Space should have all the warnings he needs. Perhaps all of this could have been avoided if the box his computer came in had **"DANGER: If you use this product to access the internet, be warned that your feelings might get hurt at the SDMB BBQ Pit forum.** in big red letters.

And I’ll have you know **mrvisible** , that speaking from your ass with authority gives your voice a good resonance. From there you can _hear_ yourself agree with you.

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**Author:** ![Upham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Upham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/47 "2001-02-07T04:48:18Z")

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YOUR alley, that is, bloody keyboard

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/48 "2001-02-07T04:51:36Z")

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> Ice Wolf, you are a prime example of what I’m talking about.

Care to explain, **grienspace**? Or were you just shooting blanks, there?

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**Author:** ![Upham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Upham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/49 "2001-02-07T04:53:02Z")

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> Upham, young man. Just because a person is a fucking idiot it does not follow that he is a festering sack of pig jizz.

**Biggirl** I couldn’t agree with you more. Not ALL fuckin idiots are festering sacks of pig jizz. It just so happens that, in this case, they have come togather to form some sort of _super_ fucking festering sack of idiotic pig jizz. A hybred, if you will.

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/50 "2001-02-07T04:53:54Z")

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No Upham, after reading **grienspace’s** response to **Icewolf’s** obviously calm and correct post, I guess that **grienspace** is just out to get a rise out of everyone.

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> Ice Wolf, you are a prime example of what I’m talking about.

That’s a far reach from a “prime example” **Icewolf** didn’t state much more than how things work here.

OY, you’d think that by bringing up this subject after the umpteen-millionth time (as this has been a topic in here in other threads) in the manner the OP did, he/she would realize he/she was opening his/her self up for the posts that followed, but to use someone like **Icewolf** as an example goes beyond even the lowest form of “fighting back.” That’s kinda tacky **grienspace** are you just trying to invoke a response that was honest and to the point? If so, go take that little kid’s bucket in the sandbox and let us know if you feel better.

😃

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/51 "2001-02-07T05:01:39Z")

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BTW Upham, my last post was in response to your post:

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> **Hey rat ass** (ie, grien) you’ve yet to answer my question. Are you just fucking around acting as one of these “pit bullies” you seem to think are out to get you might?

Like I said, he/she is either on crack or had a bad batch of mushrooms…and besides…in the words of Wally “What a Putz.”

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**Author:** ![strawberriesandcream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@strawberriesandcream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/strawberriesandcream)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/52 "2001-02-07T05:02:52Z")

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how can one know so much about pig jizz?? I mean unless they are in the habit of giving pigs head…

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**Author:** ![Upham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Upham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/53 "2001-02-07T05:04:54Z")

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**tech** I’m just tryin to figure this out. What can i say? The guy’s got a head of peach pits, that’s gotta intrest you.

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**Author:** ![Upham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Upham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/54 "2001-02-07T05:06:50Z")

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**Strawberries** Welcome to the board, and so what if i do??

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/55 "2001-02-07T05:09:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*  
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> > Ice Wolf, you are a prime example of what I’m talking about.
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> Care to explain, **grienspace**? Or were you just shooting blanks, there? \*\*

Please let me clarify. I implied that for all your lurking, you still haven’t got a clear comprehension of what goes on in the pit. After all, I am suggesting more education for newbies, and at 59 posts, I suggest you are still a newbie than already exists.

Now you suggested that a doper calling another doper into the pit was appealing in his mind to a\* sentient\* human being. Now sentient means\* capable of having perception\*, a characteristic that is certainly not being ascribed to me, nor do I ascribe it to techchick68 in this case. That is why I suggest you are a prime example. The present warning of the pit is not sufficient for newbies.

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/56 "2001-02-07T05:10:36Z")

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You’re right, it is interesting but you gotta wonder what is going through the person’s brain to post such a thing and not expect to have people in **The Pit** react.

If he/she was so much about “education” he/she should have posted as such in the beginning. The Pit is not a place to play. Education does not make a Pit post…anyone who’s been here for a while _knows_ that, geez!

Anyhow, if the person is still around. You might take a sec and realize that the next time you propose a Pit thread you think it through verrrrry carefully.

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**Author:** ![strawberriesandcream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@strawberriesandcream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/strawberriesandcream)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/57 "2001-02-07T05:10:49Z")

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If that turns you on… although our legal system isn’t exactly too fond of that…

And why pigs over cows?

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/58 "2001-02-07T05:11:50Z")

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And now that you’ve responded to **Ice Wolf** , care to respond to my post and I debate the merits of your OP? And you’re still avoiding the question of what you meant in your post to **Upham**.

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**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/59 "2001-02-07T05:14:25Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by grienspace \*  
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> After all, I am suggesting more education for newbies, and at 59 posts, I suggest you are still a newbie than already exists.\*\*

Yep. In my last post, I had a typo. Thanks for pointing that out to me, Grienspace.

Now go learn how to speak english in a manner comprehensible to those of us who don’t have our heads so far up our asses we can see our own gag reflex.

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**Author:** ![Upham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Upham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/60 "2001-02-07T05:15:30Z")

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> Please let me clarify. I implied that for all your lurking, you still haven’t got a clear comprehension of what goes on in the pit. After all, I am suggesting more education for newbies, and at 59 posts, I suggest you are still a newbie than already exists.

and **YOU** have a “clear comprehension” of what goes on in here? sure as fuck doesn’t look that way.

And who are you to comment on “Newbies”?? All bow to the Mighty grienspace and his wopping 400 posts! Great Tao man, some people have 4 times the number of poses you or i do, have you NO concept of how useless you really are?? I still consider my self a Newbie, i consider you a fool, now get back to the OP and your followning mindless statements. Stop dodging the issues.

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