# Ban the Pit!!!!!!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2001, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441 "2001-02-07T02:54:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![Upham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Upham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/101 "2001-02-07T18:14:49Z")

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**grien** You do realise what a fool you’re making of your self, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/102 "2001-02-07T18:48:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*  
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> > …it even amazes my dog.
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> **AquaPura!** Fellow newbie! Please don’t tell me you let your dog **read** this stuff! Especially **grienspace’s** stuff! Aw no! Animal cruelty!
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> 🙂  
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I think we’re on to something here. I showed **grienspace** ’s inane ramblings to my dog, and he bit me. Maybe those pit bulls are smarter than we give them credit for. Or perhaps they are part of the Pit Bully conspiracy. Hey, there’s a cool slogan, “Pit Bullies for for pit bulls”.

[sub]No, I don’t really have a dog, and even if I did, I wouldn’t let it read this thread. Except maybe that damn dog down the hall that barks when I’m trying to sleep in.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/103 "2001-02-07T20:11:20Z")

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ok **grienspace** that’s twice I’ve tried to debate you and twice you’ve ignored me. You apparently have nothing to say about my last post. If you can’t deal with it, you ignore it, is that your motto? Your one piece of “evidence” is the list in the OP, whish quite cleraly says ‘inspired and encouraged’ This is not a conspiracy to me. This is like-minded indivduals who think a thread should be started. I don’t see how that is ganging up behind the scenes to pounce on someone. And as I’ve said before, I didn’t even post to that thread. I post from work, or occasionally my parents house. That thread was closed before I even got to read it. I’m only in this thread cuz I think you’re being an immature ass.

Nothing is being accomplished here. This is just another whiney Pit thread about how the Pit is too tough on some people. It’s also the same crap about how some of us are elitist and there’s the ringleader with his minions, etc, etc. It’s all been done before, just as **Alphagene** said.

BTW - if **cartooniverse** is so fucking upset, how come he didn’t start this thread? Who put you in charge of speaking out on behalf of the poor widdle newbies? In short, what the hell does any of this have to do with you?

And as for **Upham** asking for himself - fuck you. You posted it publicly where any one of us can read it. If it was meant for **Upham’s** eyes only you shouldn’t have posted it on a public message board. You told everyone else that I should defend myself, now it’s time for you to defend yourself. Put up or shut the fuck up. I realize it was a while ago and there’s probably not room in your pointy little head to retain everything that’s gone on so I’ll quote you here:

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> Ah Upham  
> You are so easy

and as for you trying to weasel away saying **Upham** should ask for himself, he did:

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> Alright man, if you wern’t trolling then please tell me how i’m easy.

It’s all there on page one. Now explain.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/104 "2001-02-07T20:37:23Z")

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> People get hurt in the Pit by the Pit Bullies.

It’s not the fault of the Pit Bullies, it’s the fault of the Pit Bully owners.

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**Author:** ![Ptahlis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a8b319/32.png) [@Ptahlis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ptahlis)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/105 "2001-02-07T21:09:30Z")

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God I love the 'net sometimes! You can’t find entertaining loons like this just anywhere you know. I think grieny is either certifiable or makes his home under a bridge. Either way, the trollery is fun to watch so long as it stays here in the Pit. It’s a pain in the ass when it hits GD though.

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**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/106 "2001-02-07T21:27:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diane \*  
> \*\*It’s not the fault of the Pit Bullies, it’s the fault of the Pit Bully owners. \*\*

So it’s **Rasa** ’s fault that **oldscratch** is such a bastard?  
:d&r:

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/107 "2001-02-07T22:31:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diane \*  
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> > People get hurt in the Pit by the Pit Bullies.
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> It’s not the fault of the Pit Bullies, it’s the fault of the Pit Bully owners. \*\*

Thats not true. These statistics I got from my magic eight ball, and are backed up by the studdies done by a respected expert on chewing gum state that Pit bullies are 1577845 times more likely to hurt someones feelings than are any other breed. Further more, It was vast conspiracy of circumsised 700 club supporters that raise pit bulls must of changed the title of the OP to Ban the Pit!!!, its not G-spot (or what ever the hell his name is) fault. Really…I say we move all of them, and thier dogs, to Israel.

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**Author:** ![Upham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Upham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/108 "2001-02-07T23:37:19Z")

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This thread smacks of stupid.

Anyone for odds on when it’s closed?

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**Author:** ![DeskMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DeskMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeskMonkey)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/109 "2001-02-08T00:02:10Z")

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I kinda wish any and all threads relating to the matter would just disappear. I don’t want to, but I keep looking at them, and then I feel the need to respond to them and I don’t want to end up angering anyone. (I don’t suffer wraths well.)

Well, it’s almost time for me to go home anyway, so I won’t be tempted for much longer . . . today. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kricket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f14d63/32.png) [@Kricket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kricket)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/110 "2001-02-08T00:54:49Z")

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Please do not compare him with my favorite place on a womans body.  
G-spot my ass! Is he giving any of you that certain kind of pleasure?  
I sudder at the thought.  
If you are looking for G words to subsitute, how bout Goat Felcher, or Goober head, or gomer…come on guys I know that we can be more creative than that.

And did I miss the answer to Uphams question??

That and I must not have passed the written exam to be a pit bully. ☹

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/111 "2001-02-08T01:23:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kricket \*  
> \*\*That and I must not have passed the written exam to be a pit bully. ☹ \*\*

It’s a rite of passage. Before you become a Pit Bully, you must first be accepted into the Secret Cabal. To give us your application, I first need to see a pic of youe nekkid. My email can be accessed at the bottom of this post.

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**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/112 "2001-02-08T01:58:09Z")

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Originally posted by **AquaPura**.

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> Until, then as CAPTAIN newbie (I don’t think many people have less posts than me)

_Gently taps **AquaPura** on the shoulder and points to the **Kayeby** post count_

Ahem. 🙂

Sorry everyone, carry on. I’m just going to leave this copy of _ **"How to Make Friends and Influence People"** _ on the shelf here - it’s free to a needy home.

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/113 "2001-02-08T02:49:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kayeby \*  
> \*\*_Gently taps AquaPura on the shoulder and points to the Kayeby post count_ \*\*

::gently pats **Kayeby** on the butt and points to the link in the **Crunchy Frog** sig line::

Ahem. 😉

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**Author:** ![Rasa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rasa/32/3578_2.png) [@Rasa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rasa)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/114 "2001-02-08T03:45:19Z")

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Damn, see what happens when I get a job? oldscratch goes off and becomes a big mean ol’ bully, beating up on poor unassuming imbeciles. :rolleyes:

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> \*Originally posted by porcupine \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Diane \*  
> > \*\*It’s not the fault of the Pit Bullies, it’s the fault of the Pit Bully owners. \*\*
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> So it’s **Rasa** ’s fault that **oldscratch** is such a bastard?  
> :d&r: \*\*

Nope. I have nothing to do with his parentage. 😉

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/115 "2001-02-08T05:45:58Z")

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I just want to say to all those who have repetitively posted here and in the other hate **grienspace** threads that no one of my low IQ and intellectual capabilities should receive the amount of attention that grienspace has received, in four or five current pit threads. Whenever I’m confronted by someone who is mentally challenged more than myself, I certainly don’t view that person as a threat. Does anyone really feel threatened by my views?  
I came into the pit to take on **oldscratch** whose obvious superior intelligence was being used to buttress the opposing view regarding pit bulls. I didn’t come into the pit to take on Upham, although 95% of his posts I’ve read are for the purpose of harrassing me.

Which bring me to Upham. I responded to the requests for clarification of my response to Upham’s screaming bold and capitalized in my response to Alphagene, 11:45 pm Feb 6. I’ll clarify further. A response characterizing the degree of provocation for an intense verbal attack can hardly be considered trolling, a proactive event.

And yes Coldfire, I should stay out of the pit. It definitely brings out the worst in me.

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/116 "2001-02-08T06:05:07Z")

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of course, you still haven’t explained why you lied.

Once a troll, you know the rest.

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**Author:** ![Upham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Upham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upham)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/117 "2001-02-08T06:21:00Z")

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Man griensapce. You really _really_ suck.

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**Author:** ![Krispy\_Original](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ec9cab/32.png) [@Krispy\_Original](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krispy_Original)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/118 "2001-02-08T06:25:25Z")

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Sheesh, can’t you guys come up with some new material?..or maybe even find someone else to hate for a while? This is getting old.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/119 "2001-02-08T06:31:21Z")

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> I just want to say to all those who have repetitively posted here and in the other hate grienspace threads that no one of my low IQ and intellectual capabilities should receive the amount of attention that grienspace has received, in four or five current pit threads.

Why not? Forrest Gump sure received a lot of attention. Then again, he wasn’t an asshole.

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> Whenever I’m confronted by someone who is mentally challenged more than myself, I certainly don’t view that person as a threat. Does anyone really feel threatened by my views?

Not “threatened”… “annoyed”, “aggravated”, “pissed off”, “tired”, “bored”, etc. If brains were TNT, you couldn’t blow up a balloon. You’re more along the lines of “The Toothpick That Broke The Camel’s Back”. In fact, that shall be my new name for you… **Toothpick**.

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> I came into the pit to take on oldscratch whose obvious superior intelligence was being used to buttress the opposing view regarding pit bulls.

No you didn’t. You came to the Pit to cause trouble. If you wanted to “take on oldscratch” about Pit Bulls, you should have done so in the thread designated for taking on oldscratch about Pit Bulls. Since you haven’t done so, I must conclude that you are being dishonest.

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> I didn’t come into the pit to take on Upham, although 95% of his posts I’ve read are for the purpose of harrassing me.

ANSWER HIS FUCKING QUESTION, you Monty Python gag reject! It’s not too difficult to do! For an honest person, anyway…

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> . I responded to the requests for clarification of my response to Upham’s screaming bold and capitalized in my response to Alphagene, 11:45 pm Feb 6. I’ll clarify further.

Would you like to drag up an exact quote of yours? By my time zone, only one person made a post in this thread at 11:45 PM, Feb. 6th. And it wasn’t you.

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> A response characterizing the degree of provocation for an intense verbal attack can hardly be considered trolling, a proactive event.

But such a response can indicate a deliberate attempt to create a provocation with an intense verbal attack. Methinks you need to begin thinking very, very carefully about what you post next. Just a friendly suggestion.

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**Author:** ![Upham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Upham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upham)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2001, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-the-pit/53441/120 "2001-02-08T06:31:39Z")

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But **Krispy** he really, really does suck! would you have me stand by and let him go through his whole life with out knowing that? If i suck and someone tells me so, hell, i thaink 'em! “Thanks” i say “Now that i know you think i suck i can make the decision as to wether or nor your opinion of me warrents my reconsidering my aproach to life or just not paying attention to you from now on”

And, **Krispy** i’d hate to fall back on the “if you don’t like it, don’t read it” thing (it’s just so stale, still valid though)

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