# Band members who hate each other **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 15, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839 "2014-06-15T19:01:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/41 "2014-06-16T10:04:53Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Was there something with the Eagles? I remember a Denis Leary bit from No Cure For Cancer, talking about Don Henley: > > “I got two words for ya, Don… Joe Fuckin’ Walsh. How long’s your ponytail now, Don?” > > No context given and the audience howls. I have searched for this conflict but never found anything. That wasn’t a Henley/Walsh feud–that was Leary saying Don Henley should shut the hell up about the environment and stick to playing music, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/42 "2014-06-16T10:24:53Z")
Glenn Frey and Don Felder supposedly nearly came to blows before the Eagles broke up in 1980, though. And Felder was fired from the band in 2001 and lawsuits ensued. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/43 "2014-06-16T11:19:59Z")
Not a lot of love between Frank Zappa and the other members of the original Mothers of Invention ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/44 "2014-06-16T11:21:25Z")
> [@tavalla](#): > > That wasn’t a Henley/Walsh feud–that was Leary saying Don Henley should shut the hell up about the environment and stick to playing music, that’s all. Yeah, there was definitely context given, but I don’t think it was about the environment. I think the lead-in was something like “Don Henley is on record as saying that kids should not do drugs.” ETA: no, that was Keith Richards. Maybe you’re right about the environment. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/45 "2014-06-16T12:02:50Z")
In the 90s I had a friend working for a record label who got me backstage a number of times. One night we saw **Alabama** perform and there was tension. Apparently Randy Owen wanted to change the band’s name to **Randy Owen and Alabama**. The rest of the band disagreed. Randy had a solo dressing room that night and was sitting alone in it. The rest of the band had a party going in the other dressing room. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/46 "2014-06-16T12:17:43Z")
I keep reading this thread title as “Board members who hate each other”. There’s a fantastic Pit thread in there somewhere… ---
**Author:** ![Hodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Hodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hodge)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/47 "2014-06-16T12:44:25Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > The Police, or at least Sting and Stuart Copeland, do not get along well together when they are (were) working. I think Stuart Copeland was quoted after the breakup as saying something along the lines that they discovered that they could all be quite good friends as long as no one mentioned music. Which reminds me of one of my all-time favourite backstage clips: Sting and Copeland were being interviewed by a VJ at one of their Toronto Police Picnic festivals in the early '80s at the height of their superstardom. Sting’s ego was already super-sized and when he starts bloviating in response to a question, you can see Copeland roll his eyes, sigh and then after a beat, throw his drink right in Sting’s face. He then bolted off-camera chased by Sting who had an absolutely murderous look in his eyes. Pure comedy gold. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/48 "2014-06-16T12:51:13Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > In the 90s I had a friend working for a record label who got me backstage a number of times. One night we saw **Alabama** perform and there was tension. Apparently Randy Owen wanted to change the band’s name to **Randy Owen and Alabama**. The rest of the band disagreed. Randy had a solo dressing room that night and was sitting alone in it. The rest of the band had a party going in the other dressing room. That doesn’t make a lot of sense. He wanted to change the name of country music’s biggest band, several years after the height of their popularity? That’s a bit hard to swallow. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/49 "2014-06-16T13:06:02Z")
> [@Hodge](#): > > Which reminds me of one of my all-time favourite backstage clips: Sting and Copeland were being interviewed by a VJ at one of their Toronto Police Picnic festivals in the early '80s at the height of their superstardom. Sting’s ego was already super-sized and when he starts bloviating in response to a question, you can see Copeland roll his eyes, sigh and then after a beat, throw his drink right in Sting’s face. He then bolted off-camera chased by Sting who had an absolutely murderous look in his eyes. > > Pure comedy gold. If it’s the same clip I’m thinking of (although it wouldn’t surprise me if there were more than one such incident!), you omitted the funniest part. As I recall it, it was an interview with the whole band. Sting says something, Stuart throws a drink in his face, they both curse at each other and race off-camera… And poor Andy Summers is left sitting there by himself, with a “WTF-just-happened” expression on his face. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/50 "2014-06-16T13:26:01Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > That doesn’t make a lot of sense. He wanted to change the name of country music’s biggest band, several years after the height of their popularity? That’s a bit hard to swallow. Yeah, I don’t know how to prove it. I was there that night and the dressing room thing was obviously weird. My RCA/BMG friend walked me into Randy’s room to say hi. He was polite. Then we went into the other (band) dressing room and had fun. I asked her what was up and she took me aside and told me. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/51 "2014-06-16T13:45:30Z")
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the Sex Pistols yet. Bassist Glen Matlock was ousted largely due to tension between him and Johnny Rotten. Matlock’s replacement, Sid Vicious, ended up himself causing tension and hard feelings within the group. And of course, Rotten and manager Malcolm McLaren were famously at each other’s throats for the entire existence of the group. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/52 "2014-06-16T13:52:10Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Weren’t Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel estranged for many years? I’ve talked to some of the people who worked with Simon on his Broadway musical Capeman, and apparently the man has one of the biggest egos on the planet. Thinks he’s the second Mozart. I’m amazed Garfunkel put up with him for so many years. I’ve read the Brian Wilson hated his brother Dennis who wax better looking, got more girls, and could actually surf. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/53 "2014-06-16T14:01:09Z")
Metallica’s management hired [Phil Towle](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Towle) as a performance enhancement coach, but he also served as a mediator between feuding members. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/54 "2014-06-16T14:03:41Z")
> [@TreacherousCretin](#): > > I read in some book or other that Keith didn’t speak directly to Bill Wyman for eleven years. I found it rather hard to believe, and offer it here for dissection and debunking. I have heard that Wyman grew disenchanted with others in the band and only stayed because of the money. Somewhere I read that in the early days, Roger Daltrey bullied all the other members of the Who so badly that John and Pete gave him an ultimatum: that Pete was now the leader of the band and if Roger didn’t like it, he was out. Daltrey made the wise decision to stay and stop bullying the others. There was a lot of tension between Grace Slick/Paul Kantner vs Jorma Koukonen/Jack Cassidy of the Jefferson Airplane. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/55 "2014-06-16T14:05:37Z")
Stephen Stills and Neil Young had some serious conflicts when they both were members of Buffalo Springfield. People were amazed when Crosby, Stills & Nash added Young to the band, but it seemed to work out. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/56 "2014-06-16T14:05:50Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > I’m amazed Garfunkel put up with him for so many years. Really? You can’t think of a few reasons why Art Garfunkel put up with Paul Simon (assuming he’s as difficult as your friends say)? > [@](#): > > I’ve read the Brian Wilson hated his brother Dennis who wax better looking, got more girls, and could actually surf. I really don’t think Brian Wilson gave a rats ass about not being able to surf. It’s not like he couldn’t have tried if he wanted to, or that Dennis was even very good at it to begin with. That’s the first time I’ve heard that Brian “hated” his brother and I have a hard time believing it. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/57 "2014-06-16T16:23:00Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Really? You can’t think of a few reasons why Art Garfunkel put up with Paul Simon (assuming he’s as difficult as your friends say)? Not just Annie-Xmas’ friends. From what I’ve read over the years, Simon can be a very difficult person to deal with, both personally and professionally. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/58 "2014-06-16T17:00:00Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Was there something with the Eagles? I remember a Denis Leary bit from No Cure For Cancer, talking about Don Henley: > > “I got two words for ya, Don… Joe Fuckin’ Walsh. How long’s your ponytail now, Don?” > > No context given and the audience howls. I have searched for this conflict but never found anything. [QUOTE=Denis Leary] And I also don’t go for this other thing now, with MTV being so big where you get a band that gets a hit video, and all of the sudden they think that they’re like icons and they can tell us how to feel about environmental issues and how to vote and stuff. You know what I’m talking about? Like R.E.M. “Shiny Happy People” “Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey! Pull that bus over to the side of the pretentiousness turnpike, alright!? I want everybody off the bus. I want the shiny people over here, and the happy people over here, ok! I represent angry gun-toting meat-eating fucking people, alright!” Sit down and shut the fuck up Michael! Don Henley’s gonna tell me how to vote. I don’t fucking think so, ok? I got two words for Don Henley, Joe Fucking Walsh, ok!? Thanks for calling, Don! How long’s your pony tail now? Ok! [/QUOTE] [4- More Drugs](http://www.endor.org/leary/) ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/59 "2014-06-16T18:16:17Z")
Simon and Garfunkel were boyhood friends. I’m guessing it’s a bit overblown to say they ever hated each other, even if they did tire of the partnership, egos, etc… Paul Simon is an astounding song writer, composer, arranger, musician, etc. But Art Garfunkel was an incredibly talented singer. I’d say they both made out pretty well with the collaboration, benefiting from the others talents. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839/60 "2014-06-16T19:09:04Z")
Ron Torkelson was apparently not well liked by the rest of Armada. Even Herman Menderchuk. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/band-members-who-hate-each-other/690839.md?page=4)