Just to nitpick, Rusty Young played pedal steel guitar, not slide.
I’ll go with my perennial, the Bonzo Dog Band. Together, they were the Monty Python of music (and Python learned a lot from them), but post breakup no much came of them. Neil Innes had some nice songs, but never caught on except for his work for Python, and Vivian Stanshall’s work was more weird than musical.
There’s also Spirit. Great group. One hit by Jay Ferguson, but they never recaptured the genius.
Let’s try some jazz. I nominate the classic John Coltrane Quartet: Trane on soprano sax, McCoy Tyner on piano, Steve Davis on bass, and Elvin Jones on drums.
As good as Trane was, Tyner and Jones were first-rate musicians in their own right and Davis wasn’t bad, though I think I would prefer Jimmy Garrison.
All right, Mr. Chance, I’m gonna challenge you because we’ve disagreed on this in other threads: Styx
I’ve got almost everything from Equinox through Cyclorama and I still think the essential line-up is Dennis DeYoung, James (JY) Young, Tommy Shaw, and the Panozzo brothers.
Yeah, Dennis pissed-off his band-mates with ballads and the theatrical conceptual Kilroy Was Here (from which you take Tommy’s namesake) to the point that Tommy left and that Sucherman guy filled in [Edge of the Century]. And then Dennis and Tommy put out competing solo albums and Tommy gathered the Damn Yankees. Then they got back together and put together Brave New World and Dennis couldn’t join the tour to back it. So they dropped him and found Gowan and spent a lot of time after the Brave tour just getting their groove together on oldies and remakes. Now The Mission has had only mediocre sales (though one must admit this is a different era and model for marketing music than when they started).
I still think that, if Dennis had joined the Brave New World tour anyway* the others wouldn’t have voted him out and the signature synergy would still be going strong today with better tracks on The Mission and better sales (i.e. greater popularity) because of it. I still think the essential Panozzo-Dennis-JY-Tommy version is better than any of their substitute (e.g. Sucherman for John, Burtnik for – ?who?) incarnations.
What say you, Mr. Chance?
–G?
*But of course he couldn’t because Disney lawyers would have shredded him for breach-of-contract and ruining their live production of Hunchback of Notre Dame – for which, ironically, his original scores have yet to see the light of day.
Interesting that one of the acts at Summerfest last year was “Dennis DeYoung: The Music of Styx”.
More honest than some musicians trying to pass themselves (with random musicians) off as the original band. Dewey Whatshisname toured as The Buffalo Springfield, Bob Shane put together a new Kingston Trio, and I think there were three bands last summer touring as “The Beach Boys”.
After DeYoung was kicked out of Styx in the late 1990s, he sued the band for the right to use the band’s name in the context of the solo career he was embarking on. As part of the settlement of the lawsuit, Shaw, Young, & co. can still call themselves Styx, and DeYoung is allowed to use the band’s name in terms like “the music of Styx,” and refer to himself in promotional materials as “formerly of Styx.”
KISS proved this because I think it was their 3rd or 4th album contract had a thing that said everyone got their own solo album
so over a couple of years, they all came out … and I think the critics and fans said only 1 or 2 of the 4 was even semi-decent and I don’t think any of them had a hit so they took the hint and didn’t try again …
Note I’m remembering this from behind the music and things I read so I could be off …
While the initial work of *Blind Faith *and Derek and the Dominos was great collaboration, Clapton’s superstardom overshadowed both bands, leading to their early demise as Clapton strived to get away from his “Clapton is God” reputation. It’s possible Derek and the Dominoes may have continued longer if Allman had stayed and shared the limelight with Clapton, but he (Clapton) was already on his way to self destruction because of his fame and Patti Boyd.
Blind Faith is considered by many to be the first Supergroup, since Ginger Baker (Cream) and Steve Winwood (Traffic) were as well known as Clapton. Clapton has said that people initially expected them to play Cream and Traffic songs rather than their own work.
Allman wasn’t an official member of Derek and Dominos (though he played with him live a couple of times) and was already well known for his work with The Allman Brothers, to which he returned after the Layla sessions.
My wife (now passed), before I met her, back in the 70s, had a loft near CBGBs. David Byrne stayed in a room there for a time. It was a place where a lot of musicians, artists, actors, hung out. Most of them from Rhode Island School of Design. Tina Weymouth and Chris Franz were among this group of people.
Now I can’t really comment on Franz’s drumming, but Tina’s bass playing was amazing. And when the band was forming, she didn’t even know how to play. She taught herself.
My wife claimed that she suggested the name of the band. I’ve always took it with a grain of salt, because there was a lot of partying in those days. I still have a Polaroid of a relatively famous actress doing cocaine.
I’ve just got to say I will never utter anything half as cool as “My wife had a loft near CBGB. David Byrne stayed there.”
One of these nights at the local tavern, the regulars (who argue about music nonstop) are going to put together a fantasy band of near-geniuses. Sir Brian May (PhD in Astrophysics), Tom Morello (Harvard & DC), Laurie Anderson (BA, MFA, invented some of the instruments she uses), Kesha (crazy high IQ), Greg Graffin (PhD, Cornell -where he was teaching while still playing with Bad Religion), and of course David Byrne.
ETA: Sorry for the hijack. Just loved the opening to Mike’s post.
Don’t shoot me, but I like Ace’s first solo album (the one you are referring to). And it does have a couple songs that I would consider hits, particularly his cover of New York Groove. He has several more solo albums but I haven’t given them much listen time. KISS was better together, at least up to the Alive 2 period. Beyond that, not so much.
In 1999, Kiss’s Paul Stanley starred in a Toronto production of The Phantom of the Opera, in which he played the role of the Phantom. He appeared in the musical from May 25 to August 1, and again that year from September 30 to October 31, 1999. Though an official album of him in the role was never released, I’ve heard it and Stanley was excellent in the role.
I’d argue that Neil Young’s solo career after CSN&Y at least equaled (if not surpassed) his works with the group. If I could go back in time and pick which one to see in their prime I would pick CSN&Y, but only because I’ve seen Neil perform 5 times already (including in his prime).
One of my favorites, especially the spoken intro. A couple of times (during stressful periods in my life) I’ve run off to NYC for a long weekend. On each occasion, as I’m getting out of the car/taxi/subway in mid-town for the first time, I just have to say* “Well, here I am/back in the ci-tay/with a fistful of dollars/in my hand…”*