# Bands that formed in the 60s or earlier whose founding members are all still alive

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 11, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192 "2009-11-11T16:01:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/61 "2009-11-12T15:18:01Z")

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> [@whole\_bean](#):
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> I think we pretty much agree on this

I don’t. There is a difference between the seventh decade of the 20th century, which ran from 1961 through 1970, and the 60s, which encompassed 1960 through 1969. They aren’t synonymous in any formal or rigorous sense and they aren’t the same in a cultural sense. Nobody uses the seventh decade definition in a cultural sense in the first place.

The 20th century ran from January 1, 1901 through December 31, 2000. Unlike decades people do talk about the 20th century being the same as the 1900s. However, the calendar remains the calendar and there aren’t two ways of defining the calendar. You’re confusing the calendar - something that starts arbitrarily but once defined continues with mathematical logic - with a different concept, a social century.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/62 "2009-11-12T15:37:28Z")

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Since the discussion is mainly about rock bands, one possible cut-off date for the 60s could be December 6, 1969 (Altamont).

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/63 "2009-11-12T15:39:26Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> I don’t. There is a difference between the seventh decade of the 20th century, which ran from 1961 through 1970, and the 60s, which encompassed 1960 through 1969. They aren’t synonymous in any formal or rigorous sense and they aren’t the same in a cultural sense. Nobody uses the seventh decade definition in a cultural sense in the first place.
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> The 20th century ran from January 1, 1901 through December 31, 2000. Unlike decades people do talk about the 20th century being the same as the 1900s. However, the calendar remains the calendar and there aren’t two ways of defining the calendar. You’re confusing the calendar - something that starts arbitrarily but once defined continues with mathematical logic - with a different concept, a social century.

no, I’m saying most folks think of the sixites as 1960 to 1969

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**Author:** ![The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stafford_cripps/32/7167_2.png) [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stafford_Cripps)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/64 "2009-11-12T16:07:56Z")

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Hey guys, this is a thread about rock and / or roll, not calculus. You’re cramping our style 🆒

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**Author:** ![Richie\_Incognito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@Richie\_Incognito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richie_Incognito)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/65 "2009-11-12T17:24:24Z")

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csny

did you guys miss them or did i miss them from your thread?

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/66 "2009-11-12T18:10:31Z")

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> [@Scheidt-Hoch](#):
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> Hey guys, this is a thread about rock and / or roll, not calculus. You’re cramping our style 🆒

You mean harshing our buzz? 😛

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/67 "2009-11-12T18:27:41Z")

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> [@Richie\_Incognito](#):
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> csny
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> did you guys miss them or did i miss them from your thread?

See post #3

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**Author:** ![DaveRaver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daveraver/32/1078_2.png) [@DaveRaver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveRaver)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/68 "2009-11-14T18:05:29Z")

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Yes

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/69 "2009-11-15T12:00:53Z")

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> [@DaveRaver](#):
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> Yes

See the OP. Unless you’re just agreeing with my previous post. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Fourth\_Wall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Fourth\_Wall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fourth_Wall)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/70 "2009-11-15T12:02:54Z")

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Nazz (1967)  
The Hollies (1962)  
The Young Rascals (1966)  
Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels (1965)  
The Box Tops (1967)  
Chad & Jeremy (1963)  
The Guess Who (1965)  
Jay and the Americans (1960)  
The Grass Roots (1966)  
Rush (1968)  
Wishbone Ash (1969)  
Jethro Tull (1967)  
Status Quo (1962)  
The Left Banke (1965)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/71 "2009-11-15T13:22:17Z")

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Gotta take Rush out of that. John Rutsey, the original drummer (who was replaced for the Fly By Night album with Neil Peart), died a few years ago.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/72 "2009-11-15T18:56:33Z")

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> [@NineToTheSky](#):
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> I have got to disagree. I’m listening to Exordium+Terminus, and, IMO, it is ghastly MOR. I hope I never have to listen to ‘I Remember Heidi’ ever again. I’d rather have chocolate eclairs stuffed up my bum than to have to suffer that again.
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> Oh, dear god, they’ve moved on to a song about Fred. Roughly the same tune as ‘2525’, but with appalling lyrics.
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> Please tell me it gets better, because I can’t listen to any more.

Dude, it gets better. The second side of the album (marked as “ZagEv” on that website and OGG file) is way, way superior to the first. That’s the one that’s got _In My House,_ _Reginald Ludwig,_ _The Candy Machine,_ _Mr. Turnkey_ - not to mention the opening overture - definitely the best tracks on the album. Please, please don’t give up on it. Give it a chance, you will grow to appreciate it.

Also I don’t see how you could compare _Fred_ with _2525._ The melody and instrumentals are nothing alike.

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**Author:** ![Fourth\_Wall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Fourth\_Wall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fourth_Wall)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/73 "2009-11-16T09:01:27Z")

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Correct call on Rush. I missed that Rutsey had died last year.

I believe the rest of my list is pretty solid - I thought of a few more:

King Crimson (1968)  
Strawberry Alarm Clock (1967)  
Black Sabbath (1968)  
Tangerine Dream (1967)  
Kaleidoscope (1966)  
Manfred Mann (1962)

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/74 "2009-11-16T09:29:51Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> Dude, it gets better. The second side of the album (marked as “ZagEv” on that website and OGG file) is way, way superior to the first. That’s the one that’s got _In My House,_ _Reginald Ludwig,_ _The Candy Machine,_ _Mr. Turnkey_ - not to mention the opening overture - definitely the best tracks on the album. Please, please don’t give up on it. Give it a chance, you will grow to appreciate it.
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> Also I don’t see how you could compare _Fred_ with _2525._ The melody and instrumentals are nothing alike.

First, apologies to the OP for the continuing hijack.

**Argent** : On that web page, there are five files listed. I went immediately to Exordium+Terminus because it’s the one I’ve heard of. I’ve now listened to all of it, and in my opinion it gets even worse: those cod-serious/sincere spoken bits are the pits, for example.

BUT: the first file, listed as \_ (which is the one you recommend, I believe) is a whole different kettle of fish. It’s (to mix my metaphors) chalk and cheese compared to Exordium. I’m looking forward to listening to it more closely.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/75 "2009-11-16T14:52:18Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> King Crimson (two members of the 1971-72 lineup are deceased, but the original 1969 members are all still with us)  
> Jethro Tull  
> Sly & the Family Stone  
> Blood, Sweat & Tears

> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Blood Sweat and Tears

> [@Fourth\_Wall](#):
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> Jethro Tull (1967)

> [@Fourth\_Wall](#):
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> King Crimson (1968)

Now if someone will just list Sly & the Family Stone, I’ll have a bingo.

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**Author:** ![Fourth\_Wall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Fourth\_Wall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fourth_Wall)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-formed-in-the-60s-or-earlier-whose-founding-members-are-all-still-alive/517192/76 "2009-11-16T20:23:33Z")

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Wouldn’t want to disappoint.

Sly & the Family Stone (1967)

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