# Bands that were once loved...now hated so very very much

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 7, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652 "2008-11-07T16:31:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/21 "2008-11-07T23:09:08Z")

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> [@Dreamy\_B](#):
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> What about **Michael Jackson**? Does he still have much of a following. At one point he was the king of the world. I think his antics have turned off just about everyone except his most die hard fans.

I often defend his _Thriller_ album to people making jokes about Jackson’s music. _Thriller_ was quite possible one of the best albums produced in the 80s, it spawned many singles, and is quite possible in the running for the best album of all time. Jackson was a man who had (maybe still has) a lot of talent and nobody should be afraid to admit to owning and liking his music.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/22 "2008-11-07T23:13:34Z")

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Vanilla Ice was popular in the early 90s not the 80s. At least he didn’t hit it big until the early 90s (I was in high school). While I certainly didn’t own any Vanilla Ice CDs or products and I sure as hell refused to see _Cool as Ice_ I admit that to this day I still enjoy hearing “Ice Ice Baby.”

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/23 "2008-11-07T23:25:31Z")

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I’ll second the New Kids on the Block as a classic example of this phenomenon. I quite honestly always hated them, but did the “cool” kids remember my superior taste when the band suddenly become terminally unhip? No, they did not.

> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> **Spin Doctors** –Why would anyone hate them?

Yeah, I’ve never heard anyone express hatred for the Spin Doctors. I don’t think they were critical darlings or huge stars even at their peak, they were just a fun band that had several catchy hit songs. That seems to be the way they’re remembered now, to the extent that anyone thinks of them at all these days. But if I put on “Two Princes” at a party or the jukebox in a bar, I’d expect remarks like “Hey, I remember this song!” not “Oh no, not that totally lame band!”

To the OP, in the mid 1990s I was romantically involved with someone who DID love Europe’s “The Final Countdown”. In retrospect, that probably should have been my first warning that things would end badly.

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**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/24 "2008-11-07T23:34:01Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> At one time Ice was the third highest selling white rapper, just behind the other two - Eminem and The Beastie Boys.

Huh? Eminem’s debut album The Slim Shady LP came out 9 years after To The Extreme, well after Vanilla Ice melted.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/25 "2008-11-08T00:06:40Z")

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Did Milli Vanilli ever recover from their lip-synching disaster?

Not that they ever rated highly on my radar. Come to think of it, that may be the first I heard of them.

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/26 "2008-11-08T00:27:57Z")

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Does anyone care about **Phil Collins** anymore?

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**Author:** ![bleach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bleach/32/3106_2.png) [@bleach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bleach)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/27 "2008-11-08T01:10:42Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> Did Milli Vanilli ever recover from their lip-synching disaster?

They did not, and then Rob Pilatus died at age 32. Fabrice dropped a solo album in 2003.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/28 "2008-11-08T01:16:59Z")

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Oh, don’t fucking pretend you don’t like “The Final Countdown”. Not in front of other people or anything, but like when you’re running and nobody can hear what’s in your earbuds but you.

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**Author:** ![Student\_Driver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@Student\_Driver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Student_Driver)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/29 "2008-11-08T01:24:53Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> Along with Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock fell to earth rather abruptly. I expect to see a TimeLife infomercial for FratRock any day now.

Funny… when I was writing my post, I wondered to myself why Kid Rock won’t go away. He seems to have successfully switched genres to get out of the dying frat rock business-- I keep hearing him on adult-contemporary stations, oddly. Billboard says his last album in 2007 went to #1, and it’s a double platinum seller now.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/30 "2008-11-08T01:31:03Z")

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> [@Neidhart](#):
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> Does anyone care about **Phil Collins** anymore?

Sure, the Genesis reunion tour did fairly well.

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**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/31 "2008-11-08T03:33:55Z")

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Smashing Pumpkins used to have it all.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/32 "2008-11-08T03:41:32Z")

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> [@jnglmassiv](#):
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> Smashing Pumpkins used to have it all.

Who hates Smashing Pumpkins?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/33 "2008-11-08T03:47:41Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> Along with Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock fell to earth rather abruptly. I expect to see a TimeLife infomercial for FratRock any day now.

Didn’t \*\*Kid Rock \*\*just do a remake of Sweet Home Alabama?

> [@PetW](#):
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> Originally Posted by msmith537  
> At one time Ice was the third highest selling white rapper, just behind the other two - Eminem and The Beastie Boys.
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> Huh? Eminem’s debut album The Slim Shady LP came out 9 years after To The Extreme, well after Vanilla Ice melted.

Yes, if you looked at the sales for albums by white rappers over the past century, it would be:  
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP  
Beastie Boys - License to Ill  
Vanila Ice - To The Extreme

Other than that who do you have? House of Pain, Kid Rock, Snow, anyone else?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/34 "2008-11-08T03:49:03Z")

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> [@1010011010](#):
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> **Metallica**.

Only because their later albums were poorly recieved. Most hard rock fans still think their early stuff kicks ass.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/35 "2008-11-08T03:52:43Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> Who hates Smashing Pumpkins?

/raises hand

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/36 "2008-11-08T03:57:22Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Didn’t \*\*Kid Rock \*\*just do a remake of Sweet Home Alabama?

Kid Rock is a big fan of 70s southern rock (Skynyrd, Allman Bros., Molly Hatchet, etc.).

> [@](#):
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> Yes, if you looked at the sales for albums by white rappers over the past century, it would be:  
> Eminem - The Slim Shady LP  
> Beastie Boys - License to Ill  
> Vanila Ice - To The Extreme
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> Other than that who do you have? House of Pain, Kid Rock, Snow, anyone else?

You left out ICP and Kottonmouth Kings.

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**Author:** ![Fionn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fionn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fionn)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/37 "2008-11-08T04:00:20Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> And I don’t know about _hated_ but R.E.M. sure seems to have gone from worshipped to “_meh_” for a lot of people.
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> That’s mostly their own fault for putting out a lot of mediocre material in the past decade.

Their last album was really good, though.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/38 "2008-11-08T04:01:08Z")

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Was there a band in the early '80s more popular (or more well marketed) than Journey? Those fuckers even had their own video game - and that sucked too.

They disappeared fast - I hear them now only on the crone stations.

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**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/39 "2008-11-08T04:01:50Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Didn’t \*\*Kid Rock \*\*just do a remake of Sweet Home Alabama?

Sweet Home and Werewolves of London.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/40 "2008-11-08T04:38:41Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> I often defend his _Thriller_ album to people making jokes about Jackson’s music. _Thriller_ was quite possible one of the best albums produced in the 80s, it spawned many singles, and is quite possible in the running for the best album of all time. Jackson was a man who had (maybe still has) a lot of talent and nobody should be afraid to admit to owning and liking his music.

Ditto for his Bad album. He was hot as hell with loads of talent, but then his songs began to be nowhere near as good, so I had to leave him alone. (leave him _alooooneeee!!!_)

His art and his personal life are two different things. I would never be ashamed to admit I am a fan. Further more, I kinda don’t believe he is a child molester. But what the heck do I know.

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