# Bands that were once loved...now hated so very very much **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 7, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652 "2008-11-07T16:31:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/61 "2008-11-08T22:07:04Z")
> [@jasonh300](#): > > Wait, I have to nitpick here. I don’t know about _Sweet Home Alabama_ since I’ve never heard it (the remake), but I’m pretty sure the “remake” of _Werewolves of London_ was just a completely new song with the background music from _Werewolves_. Probably sampled directly from the original track. Sure, it’s obviously not even remotely the same song and not a remake. I just pointed out that both classics were sampled. Those songs are pretty similar, though. ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/62 "2008-11-09T08:32:59Z")
I’m a Goo Goo Dolls junkie. Well, from the mid-90’s when Johnny took over as lead singer on most songs. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/63 "2008-11-09T09:48:19Z")
> [@jnglmassiv](#): > > Those songs are pretty similar, though. In what way, and which songs do you mean? Because to me Werewolves/Alabama/All summer long are NOT very similar… If you mean musically- well, that’s the point of sampling, isn’t it? If you copy a riff, it’s going to sound the same… because unless you remixed it, you’re just taking the riff and using it. But i’m curious if you mean its similar lyrically or format or something else.😕 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/64 "2008-11-09T10:18:06Z")
Well, there’s a bit of a difference. Allow me to point out the subtleties as a former hair-metal junkie and see if the crowd agrees. **Poison** does NOT fit the list because they never pretended to be anything but what they are- a hair-metal band. They never pretended that their music was going to save the world, and, with the exception of the teenybopper crowd, nobody ever pretended that Poison was the best band on the planet. **Bon Jovi** does NOT fit the list because they also never pretended to be what they weren’t. They were and are a blues-based, bar-style rock and roll band. Jon stopped trying to wail when he blew out his voice after _Slippery_, and since then, they’ve put out a string of hardly groundbreaking but consistently good rock records. **Cinderella** does NOT fit the list because they went on record as resenting the record company making them go hair-metal, and, let’s be honest, nobody EVER claimed that Cinderella was fucking awesome. **Winger** MIGHT count, because, when Kip Winger (good musician as he might be) uses the sales numbers of _In the Heart of the Young_ to disrespect Metallica, pretending that popularity equals skill- then has to eat crow when he sees the numbers for _Pull_- hey, you deserve what you get when people claim to never have liked you. In fact, Winger is the best fit here. _In the Heart of the Young_ was a platinum record with a top 20 hit in 1990, and three years later they can’t sell as many copies of the album as they could the single, and the fat kid from “Beavis and Butt-Head” is wearing a “Winger” shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/65 "2008-11-09T10:27:58Z")
I don’t think the Monkees don’t have much of a following. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/66 "2008-11-09T12:39:36Z")
I’ve never understood Billy Joel, but I suspect he might fit in this list somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/67 "2008-11-09T13:17:01Z")
> [@Momofgirls](#): > > But it wasn’t really a remake, right? He just sampled those songs, and sang about singing “Sweet Home Alabama” when he was a teenager. You’re right. And he just brings out the similarities between Sweet Home Alabama and Werewolves. Kid Rock is quite a musician and entertainer. Whenever the last Woodstock was I remember watching it on TV. Keep in mind that this was during his frat rock days. He (on guitar) and his band pulled out a rendition of Fortunate Son that blew me away. I knew he could do better than the shit he was putting out at the time (Badwitiba, Cowboy, etc.). Like someone said – just because you don’t like them you can’t put them on this list. My addition to this: **Van Halen** Edit: To clarify my choice. Van Halen put out some GREAT music when they first hit the scene in the mid 1970s. BUT, if there were to put out an album today, it MIGHT sell 50 copies. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/68 "2008-11-09T13:21:37Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > I’ve never understood Billy Joel, but I suspect he might fit in this list somewhere? No way. If he tours, he sells out, and his tickets ain’t cheap. I think the OP is looking for the universally loved, now universally hated bands and performers. ---
**Author:** ![chocolatefrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/41988e/32.png) [@chocolatefrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chocolatefrog)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/69 "2008-11-09T15:04:47Z")
What about awful late 90s pop? Spice Girls, Westlife and the Backstreet Boys. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/70 "2008-11-09T15:32:13Z")
Bay City Rollers [http://www.lesmckeown.com/biog.htm](http://www.lesmckeown.com/biog.htm) ---
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/71 "2008-11-09T16:43:46Z")
> [@RoOsh](#): > > In what way, and which songs do you mean? Because to me Werewolves/Alabama/All summer long are NOT very similar… Werewolves and Alabama have, tomy ears, similar chords. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/72 "2008-11-09T18:11:21Z")
In the mid 80’s the **Thompson Twins** were pretty popular; in several different iterations with varying numbers of band members. Aside from very infrequent playings of “Hold Me Now” on oldies stations, they seem to have utterly disappeared. They don’t even seem to be held worthy of having shit talked on them. ---
**Author:** ![nikonikosuru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@nikonikosuru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nikonikosuru)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/73 "2008-11-09T18:13:10Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > This did lead to a running joke in my circle of friends in college, a little game we called “say it like Creed”. I don’t think I can do it justice in text, but it involved saying things in an imitation of Stapp’s overdone vocal style. For example: “I think IIIIIIIIII…am go-ing to get some ICE CREAM NOW…maaayBEEE some CHOC-O-LATE or CHERRY SWIRL…if they still HAAAAAAAAVE SOOOOOOOME!” As I was reading that line, I could perfectly imagine the way Stapp would sing that, it made me laugh. 😃 > [@FordTaurusSHO94](#): > > I’m a Goo Goo Dolls junkie. Well, from the mid-90’s when Johnny took over as lead singer on most songs. Same here. I think that their latest stuff is still good despite the fact how different they sound compared to when they first came out. For some reason I don’t mind the change in their sound as much as, say, how much Matchbox 20 has changed over their CDs (but maybe it’s because I first caught them with Dizzy Up the Girl.) ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/74 "2008-11-09T18:30:56Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > I’m gonna throw out **Sugar Ray** and **Smash Mouth**. Definitely Smash Mouth. During the summer of 1997 everyone, and I do mean **everyone** , would sing along every time “Semi-Charmed Life” came on the radio. Then, overnight, it was over. Now “S-CL” makes me want to throw things, preferably whatever is playing that song. However I like “The Final Countdown.” I was raised on hair metal. ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/75 "2008-11-09T18:39:43Z")
> [@nikonikosuru](#): > > As I was reading that line, I could perfectly imagine the way Stapp would sing that, it made me laugh. 😃 > > Same here. I think that their latest stuff is still good despite the fact how different they sound compared to when they first came out. For some reason I don’t mind the change in their sound as much as, say, how much Matchbox 20 has changed over their CDs (but maybe it’s because I first caught them with Dizzy Up the Girl.) Dizzy is probably my favorite CD of theirs, but A Boy Named Goo is also great if you haven’t gone earlier than Dizzy. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/76 "2008-11-09T18:40:30Z")
> [@SpazCat](#): > > Definitely Smash Mouth. During the summer of 1997 everyone, and I do mean **everyone** , would sing along every time “Semi-Charmed Life” came on the radio. Then, overnight, it was over. Now “S-CL” makes me want to throw things, preferably whatever is playing that song. > > However I like “The Final Countdown.” I was raised on hair metal. That wasn’t Smash Mouth, it was Third Eye Blind. Smash Mouth did shit songs like “All-Star” and “Walking on the Sun”… ---
**Author:** ![nikonikosuru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@nikonikosuru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nikonikosuru)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/77 "2008-11-09T18:54:15Z")
> [@FordTaurusSHO94](#): > > Dizzy is probably my favorite CD of theirs, but A Boy Named Goo is also great if you haven’t gone earlier than Dizzy. Cool, I’ll have to check out that CD then! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/78 "2008-11-09T18:58:50Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > I don’t think the Monkees don’t have much of a following. They don’t, but I like them. They’re my sixtieth most played act on my last.fm chart. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/79 "2008-11-09T19:25:43Z")
> [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](#): > > Well, there’s a bit of a difference. > > Allow me to point out the subtleties as a former hair-metal junkie and see if the crowd agrees. > > **Poison** does NOT fit the list because they never pretended to be anything but what they are- a hair-metal band. They never pretended that their music was going to save the world, and, with the exception of the teenybopper crowd, nobody ever pretended that Poison was the best band on the planet. In what way does “they never pretended to be anything but what they are” have anything to do with this thread? The OP doesn’t ask what bands pretended to be something they weren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/80 "2008-11-09T19:53:38Z")
[QUOTE= RickJay] In what way does “they never pretended to be anything but what they are” have anything to do with this thread? The OP doesn’t ask what bands pretended to be something they weren’t. [/QUOTE] It means that Poison didn’t contribute to any backlash by pretending that they were more relevant than they were. While nobody trumpeted their fandom, I don’t remember anyone denying Poison a la Peter before the crucifixion the way people did with, say, Slaughter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652.md?page=5)