# Bands that were once loved...now hated so very very much **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 7, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652 "2008-11-07T16:31:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Hodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Hodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hodge)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/81 "2008-11-09T20:52:01Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Who _hates_ Hootie and the Blowfish? I mean really hate. I think that list of people would be vanishingly small. Not to mention the fact that while none of their other albums sold as well as Cracked Rear View, they did sell perfectly fine. And Musical Chairs is just a good CD. Well, I do. Or, more accurately, I resented the hell out of them. Mostly because they rode to fame on a 2nd-rate cover of “I Go Blind”, which was originally recorded by a much better band, Canadian roots-rockers 54-40. 54-40 never got the fame and recognition they deserved, so I hated that Hootie hit the big time with one of their songs. Although I’m sure 54-40 weren’t complaining about all of the royalty money. > [@RickJay](#): > > It’s a Canadian thing, mostly, but \*\*The Tragically Hip \*\*have gone from being one of the best rock bands in the world in the early 90s to being one of the consistently WORST bands, at least if you count bands that have actual record contracts, and to be honest I kind of wish they’d quit. Me, too. I gave up after “Trouble at the Henhouse” (which I think is unfairly under-rated) and I find most of their more recent stuff downright embarrassing. Occasional gems like “Bobcaygeon” aren’t worth wading through the overwhelming head-up-ass-edness of the rest of it all. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/82 "2008-11-09T20:58:50Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > That wasn’t Smash Mouth, it was Third Eye Blind. > > Smash Mouth did shit songs like “All-Star” and “Walking on the Sun”… Dammit. I always got those two mixed up. Third Eye Blind sucks/ed too. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/83 "2008-11-09T21:07:20Z")
> [@Hodge](#): > > Well, I do. Or, more accurately, I resented the hell out of them. Mostly because they rode to fame on a 2nd-rate cover of “I Go Blind”, which was originally recorded by a much better band, Canadian roots-rockers 54-40. 54-40 never got the fame and recognition they deserved, so I hated that Hootie hit the big time with one of their songs. Although I’m sure 54-40 weren’t complaining about all of the royalty money. FWIW, I love 54-40. Their 2nd album (the eponymous one) is amazing and should be in every fans catalog. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/84 "2008-11-09T21:49:56Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Didn’t \*\*Kid Rock \*\*just do a remake of Sweet Home Alabama? > [@jasonh300](#): > > Wait, I have to nitpick here. I don’t know about _Sweet Home Alabama_ since I’ve never heard it (the remake), but I’m pretty sure the “remake” of _Werewolves of London_ was just a completely new song with the background music from _Werewolves_. Probably sampled directly from the original track.[/COLOR] Sampled, or more likely, rerecorded - the SHA guitar riff and the WIL piano riff sound crisper than the originals. > [@John\_DiFool](#): > > REO originally rocked out rather convincingly, but got very mellow\* as time went on. Yah, remember “Riding the Storm Out”? That song freakin’ rocked. What happened to REO Speedwagon was the power ballad. The record companies decided that every hard rock band needed to do power ballads. This is the same thing that ruined other once-great, once-rocking bands like Foreigner, Journey, and Heart. > [@RoOsh](#): > > In what way, and which songs do you mean? Because to me Werewolves/Alabama/All summer long are NOT very similar… > > If you mean musically- well, that’s the point of sampling, isn’t it? If you copy a riff, it’s going to sound the same… because unless you remixed it, you’re just taking the riff and using it. But i’m curious if you mean its similar lyrically or format or something else.😕 The original songs had exactly the same chord pattern (though perhaps in different keys): V-IV-I, which was repeated without changing, over and over and over. It’s the reason why every member of every “classic rock” bar band in the USA hates “Sweet Home Alabama”. The song is boring as hell to play, but there’s always somebody in the audience who wants to hear it to this day. > [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](#): > > **Poison** does NOT fit the list because they never pretended to be anything but what they are- a hair-metal band. They never pretended that their music was going to save the world, and, with the exception of the teenybopper crowd, nobody ever pretended that Poison was the best band on the planet. I heard about Poison the same thing you said about Cinderella: the “hair metal” thing with all the hairspray, makeup, and spandex was done at the record company’s insistence, not what they themselves wanted to do. As soon as they had the sales pull to do so, they ditched all the glitter. > [@](#): > > **Bon Jovi** does NOT fit the list because they also never pretended to be what they weren’t. They were and are a blues-based, bar-style rock and roll band. Jon stopped trying to wail when he blew out his voice after _Slippery_, and since then, they’ve put out a string of hardly groundbreaking but consistently good rock records. Agreed. I never put Bon Jovi in the hair metal genre. I think that’s why they’re still around. I also wanted to add that Darius Rucker of Hootie & The Blowfish, along with Kid Rock, is now showing up on country music radio. Rucker has a country album out called “Learn to Live” with the current single, “Don’t Think I Don’t Think About It”. It’s pretty good. I love these lyrics from the divorce song, “All I Want”: “You can have every penny that I make from this here song Girl all I want you to leave me is alone.” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/85 "2008-11-09T22:22:11Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I heard about Poison the same thing you said about Cinderella: the “hair metal” thing with all the hairspray, makeup, and spandex was done at the record company’s insistence, not what they themselves wanted to do. As soon as they had the sales pull to do so, they ditched all the glitter. Have you seen Bret Michaels lately? Still sporting the [eyeliner](http://www.cyberhap.com/blog/media/1/20070323-bret%20michaels.jpg), the lip color, and the ridiculous hair. [CC DeVille](http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/c-c-deville-mike-esterman-birthday-party-at-blush-nightclub-in-las-vegas-on-april-4-2008-Yx5F73.jpg) also continues to don the hair and makeup, even though now he looks pretty silly (not that I thought he looked good before or anything). So I don’t buy that they wore the glitter only at the behest of a record company. They are the quintessential hair metal band, their music sucked, and for some inexplicable reason, people still love them. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/86 "2008-11-09T22:35:35Z")
I find Smash Mouth to be very listenable. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/87 "2008-11-10T02:02:52Z")
> [@Hodge](#): > > Well, I do. Or, more accurately, I resented the hell out of them. Mostly because they rode to fame on a 2nd-rate cover of “I Go Blind”, which was originally recorded by a much better band, Canadian roots-rockers 54-40. 54-40 never got the fame and recognition they deserved, so I hated that Hootie hit the big time with one of their songs. Although I’m sure 54-40 weren’t complaining about all of the royalty money. “I Go Blind” was basically their last gasp of mainstream success. They were ridiculously famous at that point from “Let Her Cry” and “Only Wanna Be With You”. The only single that had any success after “I Go Blind” was “I Will Wait”, which was really only enjoyed by Hootie fanboys and VH1. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/88 "2008-11-10T03:08:57Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > I don’t think the Monkees don’t have much of a following. When I was in high school in the '90s I knew several girls who LOVED the Monkees. There were less of them than girls who loved the Beatles, but there were a few. I doubt there are many serious Monkees fans anymore, but I wouldn’t call them a hated group either. Some of their songs are still played on oldies/classic hits stations, and I think most people today would consider say “I’m a Believer” worthy of at worst an eyeroll, and at best a singalong. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/89 "2008-11-10T03:15:54Z")
I can’t believe the thread is this long without anyone mentioning Oasis. Although still popular, their brand of rock went stale after 1 and a half albums and they’ve been plodding away ever since. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/90 "2008-11-10T03:43:14Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > As for Creed. Critics were falling all over themselves to praise both My Own Prison and Human Clay. Artificial doesn’t even begin to describe the backlash against Creed. If it was good on the release date, it’s still good and I admit to liking both of those albums. Weathered was pretty rough, but Scott Stapp’s ego was out of control at that point. But that’s no reason to just dismiss two pretty decent CDs. I agree. I’m a huge metal head and listen to some extremely heavy and off track stuff and I still think Creed got a bad shake at the end. Whether you liked them or not Mark Tremonti was actually PLAYING his guitar, solos and all, in a time dominated by nu-metal junk. They may not have been the most technically difficult solos but they were there and they fit the songs. I mentioned in a thread a long time ago that I thought that Creed (at the time) was the last big-hit arenarock band. Scott Stapp sucked but the musicians in the band were not bad and came up with some really good hooks IMHO. If you want to talk here-today-gone-tomorrow lets talk Prodigy. Those guys were worshipped as they “ushered in the new reign of techno in the USA” when they hit. I don’t even think it took a full year for the US to realize how much techno sucks, and in turn, Prodigy. ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/91 "2008-11-10T05:32:02Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > I can’t believe the thread is this long without anyone mentioning Oasis. Although still popular, their brand of rock went stale after 1 and a half albums and they’ve been plodding away ever since. Or Ryan Adams. Or [both](http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=651617&ms). ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/92 "2008-11-10T06:02:43Z")
Hey! Debbie Gibson is cool! right? > [@Ethilrist](#): > > Evanescence, maybe?..I’ve been known to sum up The Open Door as “I’m lying face-down at the bottom of a pool that I’ve filled with my own tears and blood, but everything’s okay because once I’m dead I’ll be with you forever.” Well, they are a \*Christian \*band. ---
**Author:** ![Momofgirls](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/momofgirls/32/21798_2.png) [@Momofgirls](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Momofgirls)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/93 "2008-11-10T06:03:25Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I doubt there are many serious Monkees fans anymore, but I wouldn’t call them a hated group either. Some of their songs are still played on oldies/classic hits stations, and I think most people today would consider say “I’m a Believer” worthy of at worst an eyeroll, and at best a singalong. I’m a huge Monkees fan, and I’m 42. I remember they had a revival in the mid-80s when MTV showed their TV show, but I’ve like them since I was a little kid. Mickey Dolenz on lead vocals, though, not Davy Jones. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/94 "2008-11-10T07:43:49Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > I can’t believe the thread is this long without anyone mentioning Oasis. Although still popular, their brand of rock went stale after 1 and a half albums and they’ve been plodding away ever since. They ran out of other people’s ideas. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/95 "2008-11-10T09:32:31Z")
Only one mention of Guns 'N Roses so far? Every review I’ve seen for “Chinese Democracy” says it sucks hard and G’nR can’t exist without Slash. The former members of Alice in Chains are planning on reforming with a new lead singer and they’re already hated just for thinking about it. Also, ICP (or the Insane Clown Posse) was mentioned upthread. Now I realize they were never really loved by the general public (except for a brief fascination with them when they managed to be the crudest thing ever published on one of Disney’s subsidiaries and got themselves yanked off the shelves in the course of a day) but amongst Juggalos (fans of ICP) they’ve been hated since about the 6th Joker’s Card album, Hell’s Pit/Shangri-La. Nothing they’ve done since has come anywhere near the popularity of The Great Milenko or the earlier Joker’s Card albums. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/96 "2008-11-10T09:57:31Z")
I’ve hated Hootie from the moment I first heard them. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/97 "2008-11-10T10:50:32Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > That wasn’t Smash Mouth, it was Third Eye Blind. > > Smash Mouth did shit songs like “All-Star” and “Walking on the Sun”… However, I really don’t think Smash Mouth is hated now, they’re still used quite a bit in movies ( **especially** All Star and their cover of I’m a Believer), and they’re not a walking punchline like a lot of bands/grounds have become. Contrast Britney Spears, N’SYNC, Backstreet Boys etc who, after their little era of popularity, pretty much came to serve the same utility as circus clowns as far as popular opinions go. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/98 "2008-11-10T13:41:48Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I doubt there are many serious Monkees fans anymore A-hem. Maybe not many, but there are a few. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/99 "2008-11-10T14:18:37Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > The former members of Alice in Chains are planning on reforming with a new lead singer and they’re already hated just for thinking about it. Why? The rest of the guys should suffer for the stupid mistakes of Lane? Fuck that. Yeah it may not sound the same anymore but Jerry sang ALOT more of the vocals than most casual fans realize and he sounded much like Lane as well. It’s their band. Let them do what they want. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652/100 "2008-11-10T14:32:40Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > However, I really don’t think Smash Mouth is hated now, they’re still used quite a bit in movies ( **especially** All Star and their cover of I’m a Believer), and they’re not a walking punchline like a lot of bands/grounds have become. Contrast Britney Spears, N’SYNC, Backstreet Boys etc who, after their little era of popularity, pretty much came to serve the same utility as circus clowns as far as popular opinions go. Britney Spears is still milling out hit singles. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bands-that-were-once-loved-now-hated-so-very-very-much/471652.md?page=6)