# Barbra, Alec and Cher....See Ya!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 8, 2000, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257 "2000-11-08T07:26:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lyllyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Lyllyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyllyan)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/1 "2000-11-08T07:26:36Z")

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These three were spouting about how they would leave the country should Dubya win the election. Need help packing?

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/2 "2000-11-08T07:37:00Z")

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[McGlaughlin] **BYE BYE!** [/McGaughlin]

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**Author:** ![blastfurnace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@blastfurnace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blastfurnace)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/3 "2000-11-08T08:12:32Z")

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My sweet **divemaster** and **Lyllyan** ,

Golly, your upbeat words are infectious. I see now that we have nothing to worry about now that GW is our glorious president. With the loving moralistic religious (at least divemaster) types like you, we should be in good hands! Thank god that you take the high road in manners like these. I’m glad to know your faith allows you to be kind no matter what. Turn the other cheek and all that. Your Jesus said _something_ about that…what was it? Oh, yes…love your brother. Glad to see that’s working for ya. Your church must be proud. Keep the faith.

loving you with all my bleeding liberal heart,

blast

(see, I’m a godless communistist baby-killer who will unboubtedly rot in your provincial hell, and I can play nice!)

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/4 "2000-11-08T08:50:27Z")

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where have I been moralistic and religious in my support for Bush? 😕

I’ve posted on a few religion threads, I guess, but I promise you, my instances of being “moralistic” are few and far between. I’ll be quick to give an opinion, but I am loathe to try to compel any one else to be converted or something.

Look, if people set themselves up with overblown rhetoric about leaving the country if Bush is elected, don’t be surprised if a couple of people call them on it.

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**Author:** ![blastfurnace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@blastfurnace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blastfurnace)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/5 "2000-11-08T08:56:54Z")

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Point taken. ::walks over to shake divemaster’s hand::

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**Author:** ![Lyllyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Lyllyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyllyan)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/6 "2000-11-08T12:45:01Z")

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Gore conceeds!!  
Gore retracts!

Lyllyan slaps forehead…DOH!

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**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/7 "2000-11-08T12:52:07Z")

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re the OP: Good God, could be so lucky?

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/8 "2000-11-08T13:05:28Z")

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Let me guess, close won’t count with these sort of promises. Well, I still think Bush is getting Florida, so they’ll still have to leave.

Just out of curiosity, was the threat of losing that great national treasure that is Barbra Streisand supposed to actually scare independant voters? And why couldn’t Jane Fonda have sighned on to this deal as well?

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**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/9 "2000-11-08T14:19:57Z")

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I vote we deport Streisand to Canada. Not just because of the election. Revenge for Celine Dion.

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**Author:** ![LocalLoop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@LocalLoop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LocalLoop)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/10 "2000-11-08T14:38:09Z")

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Local radio news program this morning said that Alec Baldwin didn’t even vote. Hows that for ridiculous?

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/11 "2000-11-08T14:42:16Z")

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Can someone explain to me why we should care about the political inclinations of celebrities? Just because Alec Baldwin entertained me in “Beetlejuice” I don’t consider his opinions of any value to me.

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/12 "2000-11-08T14:51:58Z")

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Although I voted for Gore, I suddenly feel like rooting for Bush . . .

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> \*Originally posted by FairyChatMom \*  
> \*\*Can someone explain to me why we should care about the political inclinations of celebrities? \*\*

But these people are famous! They’re in movies and on TV! Hell, Baldwin even did a _guest voice on the Simpsons_! They must have more valid opinions than mine, or else they wouldn’t be famous, right?  
Right?  
Well?

[sub]Anyone?[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/13 "2000-11-08T14:52:46Z")

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FairyChatMom, that was **Billy Baldwin** in _Beetlejuice_, not Alec.

And I have to say–yesterday at lunch my fellow coworkers and myself were talking about how much Christmas joy it would bring indeed if Streisand and Cher left the country. Don’t let the door hit you on the ass, “ladies.”

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**Author:** ![Oicu812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f475e1/32.png) [@Oicu812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oicu812)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/14 "2000-11-08T14:56:26Z")

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I hate to differ, but it WAS Alec in Beetlejuice…

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vidi vici veni!

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/15 "2000-11-08T14:58:35Z")

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[http://us.imdb.com/Title?0094721](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0094721)

Just barely beat me, Oicu812… 🙂

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**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/16 "2000-11-08T15:07:23Z")

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And actually, Baldwin never said anything of the sort. It was **Robert Altman** who said he’d leave the country if Bush were elected. He said this at the Cannes film festival, and some French reporter screwed up and attributed it to Baldwin. Baldwin’s been running around denying that he ever said such since the story broke.

There’s a thread in IMHO about it; I’ll see if I can find it.

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/17 "2000-11-08T15:11:22Z")

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Eh, Alec, Billy, they both can get the boot. Oh, and don’t forget Steven,

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/18 "2000-11-08T15:18:44Z")

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I went here [http://www.whom.co.uk/family/baldwin.htm](http://www.whom.co.uk/family/baldwin.htm) and got this little informational organizer to help keep the brothers Baldwin straight (and it seems I had Beetlejuice and Backdraft lead Baldwin mixed up):

Alec,1958  
[li]Malice[/li][li]The Hunt For Red October[/li][li]Glenn Garry Glenn Ross[/li][li]The Shadow[/li][li]BeetleJuice[/li][li]Miami Blues[/li]Daniel (Dan), 1960  
[li]Homicide (TV)[/li][li]The Invader[/li][li]Attack Of The 50 Foot Woman[/li][li]Knight Moves[/li][li]JCs - Vampires[/li]  
William (Billy), 1963  
[li]BackDraft[/li][li]Sliver[/li][li]Virus[/li][li]Curdled[/li][li]3 Of Hearts[/li]  
Stephen, 1966  
[li]The Usual Suspects[/li][li]Mrs Parker & The Vicious Circle[/li][li]Threesome[/li][li]Last Exit To Brooklyn[/li]  
Okay… Carry on.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/19 "2000-11-08T15:24:11Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Ruffian \*  
\*\*FairyChatMom, that was **Billy Baldwin** in _Beetlejuice_, not Alec.

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Sorry Ruffian, it was Alec. A much thinner, Billy-looking Alec, but it was Alec.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-alec-and-cher-see-ya/40257/20 "2000-11-08T18:13:22Z")

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I’ve asked this before, but can anyone post a legitimate cite for the story that various Hollywood celebrities have said they will leave the country if Bush wins. It seems a little suspect to me; if Alec, Barbra, and Cher didn’t leave when Reagan was elected, why would they be going now? And I also found it a little suspect that three of the most annoying liberals in Hollywood were named; that makes it sound like a swipe at the supposed connection between Hollywood and the White House.

And if this story is true, I’d like to hear it anyway. I voted for Gore but if Bush could drive those three into exile, it might be a sign of better times ahead.

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