# Barbra Streisand's racist ass

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 22, 2004, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777 "2004-03-22T22:38:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/61 "2004-03-24T01:30:42Z")

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> [@moriah](#):
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> And so, Governor Quinn, I’ll just have to go my way on this and you’ll have to go mine.

Ooh! Good callback!

On a clear day, you can see her booty…

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/62 "2004-03-24T09:03:08Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Here’s what I DO advocate:
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> Not finding a way to make every single thread I participate in veer off into an irrelevant opportunity for me NOT to get off my one-note soapbox.

Like the way you’ve used this thread, you mean? Your one note is ‘I shall defend every liberal against every attack no matter what’.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/63 "2004-03-24T12:58:59Z")

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**Libertarian** , I am not offended by Streisand’s silliness.

In the first place, there is some support for the notion that women of color tend to be larger and curvier in their beauty. The thousands of dark-skinned women that I have worked with in my profession haven’t seemed, in general, to be as obsessed with looking thin in the way that lighter-skinned women have. (This is great in matters of self-image, but tends to cause health related problems later on.)

I personally don’t see anything inferior about having a large butt. Do you?

I am surprised that you view that trait as a stereotype (rather than having some basis in reality for many women of color – moreso than lighter women).

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/64 "2004-03-24T14:28:02Z")

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**Zoe** , I was watching a show way back when that suggested that black teenage girls had a much healthier body image than white teenage girls.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/65 "2004-03-24T16:04:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I personally don’t see anything inferior about having a large butt. Do you?

Of course not, but what does that have to do with anything? Suppose the exchange had been verbal rather than a physical demonstration. We would have had:

Lipton: Was it the sound of you or the look of you?

Streisand: Do I look like I have a big fat black ass?

_Now_, do you see?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/66 "2004-03-24T16:32:09Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Of course not, but what does that have to do with anything? Suppose the exchange had been verbal rather than a physical demonstration. We would have had:
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> Lipton: Was it the sound of you or the look of you?
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> Streisand: Do I look like I have a big fat black ass?
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> _Now_, do you see?

That makes no sense to me. It’s not the same thing! A physical demonstration like what she did leaves much to the imagination. She could be expressing praise and envy for black women’s butts. Or she could be insulting them. Given the context, I’m leaning more towards the probability of the former.

By saying “Do I look like I have a big fat black ass?”, it would be clear that she holds much disdain for the black back. And I would join you in being offended.

Give it up.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/67 "2004-03-24T16:36:07Z")

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People tend to cut their friends some slack. If someone has a reputation as being fair-minded and tolerant, one minor slight is easily accepted as a friendly, good-natured gig. Someone who has a reputation as mean-spirited and bigoted doesn’t get the same indulgence.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/68 "2004-03-24T16:37:48Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Of course not, but what does that have to do with anything?

It has everything to do with it. Are you saying that the statement “Black women sure have nice booties” is just as racially offensive and racist as: “Black women have giant fat asses”?

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/69 "2004-03-24T16:57:02Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Of course not, but what does that have to do with anything? Suppose the exchange had been verbal rather than a physical demonstration. We would have had:
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> Lipton: Was it the sound of you or the look of you?
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> Streisand: Do I look like I have a big fat black ass?
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> _Now_, do you see?

What if she had said, “I wanna do Janet Reno”?

Or, “Aliens meet for brunch in my lower intestine!”?

Or, “When you have to put words in someone’s mouth before you can object to what they say, it’s time to check your dosages”?

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**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/70 "2004-03-24T17:53:58Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Really? Do you advocate…  
> the immediate release of all federal prisoners convicted of nonviolent crime (?)

Das just kooky.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/71 "2004-03-24T18:39:03Z")

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Yeah. Kooky, I reckon. Like I said, I’m more liberal than Lissener. He’s just a conservative with liberal stripes. He attacks me for attacking Streisand’s reckless behavior, rather than standing in support of the people she offended. He might as well change his name to Strom Thurmond Lite.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/72 "2004-03-24T18:54:20Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Yeah. Kooky, I reckon. Like I said, I’m more liberal than Lissener. He’s just a conservative with liberal stripes. He attacks me for attacking Streisand’s reckless behavior, rather than standing in support of the people she offended. He might as well change his name to Strom Thurmond Lite.

I just figured it out: **Libertarian** _has_ been whooshing us all along!

You sure got me, man. 😉

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/73 "2004-03-24T18:59:09Z")

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“Lord, my load is heavy.” — Lily Tomlin :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Gamaliel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gamaliel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gamaliel)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/74 "2004-03-24T19:06:52Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> 1. An end to oppressive ballot laws

What’s an oppressive ballot law?

And what does it have to do with Barbra Striesand’s ass?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/75 "2004-03-24T19:12:40Z")

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Try to run on a third party ticket, and you’ll find out what oppressive ballot laws are. And screw her ass. Apparently, she can get away with murder.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/76 "2004-03-24T19:32:28Z")

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Oh well if it’s MURDER she’s gettin away with, why didn’t you SAY so? that’s a whole different ball of wax. In fact it’s more like a kettle of fish. In fact, IT’S NOTHING AT ALL LIKE WHAT BARBRA DID, LIB.

Seriously, dude, you make ME look reasonable and froth free. Have a cup of tea, kick a dog, whatever you need to do. If you’re still feeling like this tomorrow, get help if it’s not too late.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/77 "2004-03-24T20:11:13Z")

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At least when **december** used to pull stunts like this, he would eventually cop to being intentionally obtuse. I’m starting to miss the ole guy.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/78 "2004-03-24T20:30:00Z")

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All I can say is that I am rooting for beach erosion for her place just cause she is who she is and has been who she is as long as I have known who she is and I didn’t like her then either.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/79 "2004-03-24T20:47:04Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> “Lord, my load is heavy.” — Lily Tomlin :rolleyes:

“No matter how cynical I get, it’s impossible to keep up.” – Lily Tomlin :rolleyes:

And THIS is why I was cautious about accepting **Libertarian’s** apologetic return to the boards: he’s got the same old pattern going, of being sweet and wonderful for awhile, until he freaks out in offense over some non-issue. When people tell him it’s a complete non-issue, he gets all martyrdom complex on us and starts making absurd charges, such as equating shaking one’s booty with murder.

An apology means you won’t do it again. Oops.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/barbra-streisands-racist-ass/235777/80 "2004-03-24T21:05:38Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> . . . And screw her ass . . .

Ah, now we get down to the crux of the matter! You’ll have to take _that_ up with Mr. Brolin.

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