Barney Frank criticism of Democratic Party

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@Banquet_Bear

An 8-year-old trans girl1 does not have any advantage2 over any other 8-year-old girl in any sport. A 15-year-old trans girl who has been on puberty blockers does not have any advantage over any other 15-year-old girl. A 25-year-old trans woman who took puberty blockers and later began hormone replacement therapy later in her teens does not have any advantage over any other 25-year-old woman in any sport. None of this should be in any way controversial.

@Banquet_Bear

There shouldn’t be any controversy here. And ‘having gone through male puberty’ absolutely should not be the dividing line. The science and data are all there.

You notice what you did there, right? You said “there should be no controversy and the line should not be male puberty” but then you gave three examples that we should all uncontroversially agree are fair and all three involve people who indeed did not go through male puberty. You’ve very strongly made the case for male puberty being the dividing line.