# Baron Donald Harkonnon

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 4, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068 "2020-04-04T17:32:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/1 "2020-04-04T17:32:36Z")

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I was watching the vDavid Lynch version of **Dune** last night. I had been struck, in the past, about the interesting parallels between that film and the first Gulf War\*, but now I see the parallels to our current president

– A large fat Orange man in charge who’s causing trouble  
– He’s surrounded by fawning sycophants, many of whom are terrified of what he will do to them  
– He;s closely attended by a creepy doctor who will do whatever he wants  
– He’s a hot-tempered tantrum-throwing baby who insists on getting credit for everything  
– He likes flying everywhere

Jared Kushner, his creepy son (in law), gets to run things by the Baron’s decree. Only Kushner has less style than Sting.

- War in the desert  
War against Shaddam  
Lots of Night Vision  
Concern about use of “atomics”  
The “Good Guys” call their operation a “Storm”

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/2 "2020-04-04T18:27:11Z")

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I find Baron Harkonnen more likable than our current leader, frankly. But otherwise I like your metaphor.

And whom do you see as Beast Rabban?

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/3 "2020-04-04T18:27:11Z")

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“Whoever controls the PPE controls the universe!”

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/4 "2020-04-04T18:37:49Z")

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duplicate

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/5 "2020-04-04T18:47:42Z")

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Well, the original Baron was smart, devious and dangerous, one of the things I didn’t like about the Lynch movie was making him into a clown.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/6 "2020-04-04T19:27:46Z")

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> [@outlierrn](#):
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> Well, the original Baron was smart, devious and dangerous, one of the things I didn’t like about the Lynch movie was making him into a clown.

Yeah – I prefer the SciFi version for that. But the Lynch version is more fun to watch, even with his case of Terminal Acne.

Oh, and I thought I’d resurrect this for your listening pleasure – **Dune — the Musical**

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=167075&highlight=Dune+Musical](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=167075&highlight=Dune+Musical)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/7 "2020-04-04T19:32:25Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I find Baron Harkonnen more likable than our current leader, frankly. But otherwise I like your metaphor.
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> And whom do you see as Beast Rabban?

Barr.  
Isn’t it obvious? He looks kinda like him. And eventually he’ll be decapi- uhh, thrown under a bus.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/8 "2020-04-04T22:29:02Z")

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I suppose Stephen Miller is Piter de Vries.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/9 "2020-04-04T23:28:03Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Jared Kushner, his creepy son (in law), gets to run things by the Baron’s decree. Only Kushner has less style than Sting.

Think about how Kenneth McMillan (the Baron) was directed to look at Sting (Feyd) and it will become clear that Feyd in this retelling is Ivanka.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/10 "2020-04-05T00:32:07Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> And whom do you see as Beast Rabban?

I think Trump is a better fit for Beast Rabban than the Baron. They were both placed in power by other more intelligent people who saw the benefit of having a figurehead draw all the opposition while they quietly ran things.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/11 "2020-04-05T01:49:13Z")

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The thought crossed my mind in the last few months that the Harkonnen are the embodiment of the end point for the current trajectory of the Republican party.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/12 "2020-04-05T02:36:54Z")

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I always figured trump more for the Lord John Whorfin type

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/pd56CIFSMI4/hqdefault.jpg "Lord Whorfin's Speech in Buckaroo Banzai") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd56CIFSMI4)

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/13 "2020-04-05T03:16:01Z")

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AKA Emilio Lizardo.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/14 "2020-04-05T07:05:57Z")

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[You’re about 4 years late with your observation.](https://thesardonicobserver.wordpress.com/2016/05/26/trump-harkonnen/)

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/15 "2020-04-05T13:07:46Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I find Baron Harkonnen more likable than our current leader, frankly. But otherwise I like your metaphor.
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> And whom do you see as Beast Rabban?

I made the connection in 2016, but I had Trump pegged as Count Rabban and Pence as Feyd Rautha.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baron-donald-harkonnon/851068/16 "2020-04-05T13:09:05Z")

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> [@outlierrn](#):
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> I suppose Stephen Miller is Piter de Vries.

Hahaha, well he is now!
