# Bartenders: How often do these drinks get ordered. And do you know how to make them?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 17, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bartenders-how-often-do-these-drinks-get-ordered-and-do-you-know-how-to-make-them/661157 "2013-06-17T02:28:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bartenders-how-often-do-these-drinks-get-ordered-and-do-you-know-how-to-make-them/661157/41 "2013-06-18T07:52:20Z")

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Forget it.

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bartenders-how-often-do-these-drinks-get-ordered-and-do-you-know-how-to-make-them/661157/42 "2013-06-18T11:24:13Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Sorry, thought you were talking in general.

Even in general, lemon juice is superior to sour mix. 😛

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bartenders-how-often-do-these-drinks-get-ordered-and-do-you-know-how-to-make-them/661157/43 "2013-06-18T13:24:17Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Nah. The pendulum has swung back towards wetter martinis, from what I can tell. Not necessarily really “wet,” but none of this bullshit “pass the shadow of the vermouth bottle over the gin” stuff. I would say something around 5:1 gin:vermouth is standard.

Agreed. I like martinis, I don’t care so much for just cold gin in a glass.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bartenders-how-often-do-these-drinks-get-ordered-and-do-you-know-how-to-make-them/661157/44 "2013-06-18T13:49:50Z")

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> [@Athena](#):
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> Even in general, lemon juice is superior to sour mix. 😛

I don’t know what it is about sour mix, but it really does have a weird, off taste to it. Even a poorly proportioned mix of lemon juice and simple syrup I’d prefer. Maybe there are some good brands of sour but the typical (Mr & Mrs T, Collins, Master of Mixes) have this, I dunno, chemically bite to it, without the fruitiness. Maybe kind of like the difference between RealLemon and a real lemon, but much moreso. Maybe it’s the bite of the additional citric acid or something.

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