# Baseball May 2009

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 1, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963 "2009-05-01T13:41:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/221 "2009-05-25T22:19:26Z")

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The Yankees ripped the Rangers and took over second place after Toronto lost yet again. The Rays lost Iwamura for the year after a slide that looked very dirty. Chris Coghlan of Florida is going to get drilled when the teams play again in a month.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/222 "2009-05-25T22:19:37Z")

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Tigers honked Kansas Cities horn. They are 4 games back . The gap is rising. I am not sure of the difference ,did the pitching carry us this year? Is the defense that much better? If it is I do not see it. I have seen quite a few blown fielding chances this year. Yet Verlander is lights out. Inge is more comfortable at 3rd. He was a lousy catcher. If Laird is an improvement over Renteria ,it can not be by that much. It makes me nervous.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/223 "2009-05-25T23:43:47Z")

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Wow. Epic fail by Toronto. In their last 7 games they have scored 11 runs.

But this isn’t hugely surprising and I’ve been calling it for over a month. The expectation was that this team couldn’t hit, and it was a shock when they did. Now the pendulum is swinging the other way; they really can’t hit, and they’re just a good team, not a great one.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/224 "2009-05-26T00:19:52Z")

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An ugly, ugly choke by the D-backs today. Made me sick to my stomach.

If you’re going to go to Chase Field to see the D-backs, you do not want to sit the the section between center and right field. I guess they were trying to recreate the quirks of an old ball park. So, I got narrow seating, no room to move, impossible to get out of and way too many kids. If your kid is over 2, they need a ticket. I know that is expensive, but if the baby doesn’t stay in your lap and is able to walk, then they need their own seat.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/225 "2009-05-26T02:16:45Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> An ugly, ugly choke by the D-backs today. Made me sick to my stomach.
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> If you’re going to go to Chase Field to see the D-backs, you do not want to sit the the section between center and right field. I guess they were trying to recreate the quirks of an old ball park. So, I got narrow seating, no room to move, impossible to get out of and way too many kids. If your kid is over 2, they need a ticket. I know that is expensive, but if the baby doesn’t stay in your lap and is able to walk, then they need their own seat.

And…they suck, too. That stinks. I know stinky baseball, I am a Reds fan, and the DBacks are playing stinky baseball, and I’m not sold on Webb solving their problems.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/226 "2009-05-26T02:22:30Z")

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ZOMG. Check out the box score for tonight’s Tribe game. The Tampa bullpen totally fell apart and the Indians came back from a 10-0 deficit. I’d like to say it’s because we rock but TB did have 2 (or 3?) errors and we got a bit lucky.

Still, this is why I fucking LOOOOOOVE baseball. This game was a true portrayal of “it’s never over till it’s over.”

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/227 "2009-05-26T02:55:19Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> ZOMG. Check out the box score for tonight’s Tribe game. The Tampa bullpen totally fell apart and the Indians came back from a 10-0 deficit. I’d like to say it’s because we rock but TB did have 2 (or 3?) errors and we got a bit lucky.
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> Still, this is why I fucking LOOOOOOVE baseball. This game was a true portrayal of “it’s never over till it’s over.”

I absolutely do not believe that…

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/228 "2009-05-26T04:12:00Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Dodgers trying to give back the 7-0 lead they took over the Rockies. I’m feeling a roller coaster game unless Weaver can get us out of the bases-loaded jam.

OK…so Weaver couldn’t save us, but our offense (or lack of Rockies’ pitching, depending on your perspective) did. I’ll take a seven-run inning and and eight-run inning in the same game any time.

Oh, and Guillermo Mota got out of an inning without giving up a run. I mean, granted, he had a 10-run lead to work with, AND he tossed a wild pitch with a runner on third who could have easily scored had he been willing to try, but the box score says he pitched a scoreless inning, by golly, and that’s what counts!

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/229 "2009-05-26T12:55:50Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> ZOMG. Check out the box score for tonight’s Tribe game. The Tampa bullpen totally fell apart and the Indians came back from a 10-0 deficit. I’d like to say it’s because we rock but TB did have 2 (or 3?) errors and we got a bit lucky.
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> Still, this is why I fucking LOOOOOOVE baseball. This game was a true portrayal of “it’s never over till it’s over.”

And on the same evening the Padres were losing 7-0 in the seventh, and came back to win.

Didn’t the Indians come back from 12-0 a few years ago?

Baseball’s wonderful, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/230 "2009-05-26T13:46:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Didn’t the Indians come back from 12-0 a few years ago?

I know they came back from 10-1 in the first inning to beat the Royals 15-13 on [August 23, 2006](http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA200608230.shtml).

I so hoped it would be less embarrassing to be a Royals fan this year. Sigh. It was nice to feel hope for a month, at least.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/231 "2009-05-26T14:45:39Z")

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The “big comeback” was in 2001 against the Mariners, where we came back from 12-0 (and then 14-2) to win. That was friggin’ amazing, too!

[box and recap](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores101/101217/101217313.htm)

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/232 "2009-05-26T14:58:51Z")

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The Twins had a nice comeback game last month [against the Angles](http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/gameTrax?gameId=290417109) scoring 7 runs in the bottom of the 8th capped with a Jason Kubel grand slam to win 11-9.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/233 "2009-05-26T17:58:36Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> The “big comeback” was in 2001 against the Mariners, where we came back from 12-0 (and then 14-2) to win. That was friggin’ amazing, too!
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> [box and recap](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores101/101217/101217313.htm)

Heh. And 2001 was the Mariners’ record-setting\* 116-win season. Just goes to show, any team can have a really really bad day.

- Yes, I know they only _tied_ the Major League Record, but they _set_ a new American League record.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/234 "2009-05-26T20:39:55Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> I know they came back from 10-1 in the first inning to beat the Royals 15-13 on [August 23, 2006](http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA200608230.shtml).
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> I so hoped it would be less embarrassing to be a Royals fan this year. Sigh. It was nice to feel hope for a month, at least.

Dude, they’re one game under .500, in second, and just four games out. Bigger miracles have happened.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/235 "2009-05-26T20:58:32Z")

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RickJay:

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> Dude, they’re one game under .500, in second, and just four games out. Bigger miracles have happened.

Of course taken in isolation, the Royals’ record doesn’t look so bad. But the strength of the team had been its pitching, and in the last month, Gil Meche - the # 1 starter - seems to have lost effectiveness, Kyle Davies, the # 3 starter, who looked great last September and in April, has gone inconsistent, Luke Hochevar, the would-be # 4, unhittable in AAA, has busted in a call-up, and the bullpen gang that seemed (except for Kyle Farnsworth) great in April has been terrible in May. I’d love for June to show me reasons for optimism. But that’s a lot of positive turnarounds to hope for. Plus a better offense, and the return of Soria and Gordon from the DL and the return of Mike Aviles to 2008 form.

Hopefully I’m wrong, and it’s May, rather than April that’s the aberration. Let’s see how June looks, I guess.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/236 "2009-05-27T00:05:12Z")

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The Orioles announced today that they’re going to bring first-round draft pick Matt Wieters up this week. Wieters will apparently make his first start behind the plate against the Tigers on Friday. I’m flying out to Baltimore tomorrow for two weeks, and i had already intended to catch a game or two; i’ll be interested to see how he goes.

Over here on the left coast, the Padres have certainly been a team of streaks this season; they started 9-3, then went 4-19, and have now gone 10-0. They’ve won a LOT of close games, and are 12-5 in one-run games, so i don’t expect it to continue for too long. Still it’s fun while it lasts, and they’re also in an awful division, so they might win a few more yet.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/237 "2009-05-27T02:55:26Z")

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Joba not looking good at all in the first inning against the Rangers. After a long rain delay, he gives up 2 runs, but it could have been a lot worse.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/238 "2009-05-27T04:24:30Z")

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Well, the D-Backs sucked as hard as they possibly could, but even they couldn’t suck quite hard enough to give up a 6-run lead two days in a row.

The Padres scored 4 in the 8th and 1 in the ninth, and had the tying run on third, but Kevin Kouzmanoff couldn’t get his first hack to stay inside the foul line, and then came a couple of yards short of putting one over the fence in right center.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/239 "2009-05-27T04:36:13Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Well, the D-Backs sucked as hard as they possibly could, but even they couldn’t suck quite hard enough to give up a 6-run lead two days in a row.
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> The Padres scored 4 in the 8th and 1 in the ninth, and had the tying run on third, but Kevin Kouzmanoff couldn’t get his first hack to stay inside the foul line, and then came a couple of yards short of putting one over the fence in right center.

I didn’t even watch the game tonight. Seriously, I’m still ill from yesterday. Yeah, I saw the score and was ready for them to choke away the lead again. This D-backs teams is worse than the expansion team right now.

At least the Rangers/Yankees is turning out to be a good game. Tied up 3-3 right now. Still, one of the disadvantages of the unbalanced schedule is they’ve got to get this game in tonight. The Rangers don’t want to give up a home Yankee game and scheduling a day-night doubleheader on a few hours notice would have been a pain.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-may-2009/494963/240 "2009-05-27T12:08:59Z")

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Well unfortunately the Yanks lost, but at least the Jays and Red Sox already had. I didn’t get to see a minute of the game with the rain delay. I hear Joba did not look good.

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