# Baseball Rule 7.05(h) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [June 13, 2000, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-rule-7-05-h/22240 "2000-06-13T15:37:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Oblong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c0e974/32.png) [@Oblong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oblong)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2000, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-rule-7-05-h/22240/1 "2000-06-13T15:37:39Z")
This is regarding the 5 ways to reach base post in the archive. I read rule 7.05(h) that Cecil based his reasoning on, and it isn’t clear that it is the batter being referred to. According to his interpretation, if the pitcher throws the ball in the stands or dugout, the batter is awarded a base. However, section 7 regards the runners, not the batter. There is reference to a “batter runner”. I’m not saying Cec is wrong on this, but perhaps someone here can clear up exactly what a “batter runner” is and if that is different from the guy at the plate. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2000, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-rule-7-05-h/22240/2 "2000-06-13T16:12:31Z")
A lot of this was covered in the forum on Cecil’s columns. However, a batter-runner is what the batter is called after he hits the ball in fair territory and starts running. ---
**Author:** ![Oblong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c0e974/32.png) [@Oblong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oblong)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2000, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-rule-7-05-h/22240/3 "2000-06-13T16:22:51Z")
Where can i find that discussion? My point with this post is that Cecil describes rule 7.05 as a fifth way to reach base when I don’t think it is a fifth way. In order for the batter to advance he has to become a batter runner. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2000, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-rule-7-05-h/22240/4 "2000-06-13T16:33:45Z")
The link for the thread is [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=2974](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=2974) It’s in Comments on Cecil’s Columns which is where this thread should go. ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2000, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-rule-7-05-h/22240/5 "2000-06-13T22:37:49Z")
It’s a rare thrill to send a thread upstairs to the Big Guy’s forum. Hey **Arnold**! Catch! ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2000, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-rule-7-05-h/22240/6 "2000-06-14T15:21:59Z")
Arnold tries to catch it, drops the ball, picks it up and puts it in his glove hoping no one notices, but too late. Now you know why I’m always last picked when I play softball! Cecil’s column can be found on-line at this link: [What are 5 ways to get to 1st without hitting the ball?](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_299.html) The column can also be found on pages 299 of Cecil Adams’ book “[_The Straight Dope_](http://www.straightdope.com/otheroutlets/books.html)”.