# Baseball September 2009

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 2, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570 "2009-09-02T00:03:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/41 "2009-09-09T18:00:29Z")

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> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#):
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> Shit. Madison Bumgarner has been called up to the Giants, possibly to start tonight for an injured Tim Lincecum.

MadBum would’ve gotten the win, if Affeldt – who is one of the best setup men in the league – had anything at all. 3 straight singles…and the winning run would’ve been out at the plate if Molina had hung on to the friggin’ ball.

But still, the Giants would be in the hunt, except the Rockies are 7-1 in September. Is this like 2007(?) where they came out of nowhere and got into the Series?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/42 "2009-09-09T18:05:02Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Incidentally, Ichiro got to 2000 hits today.
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> Ichiro for the Hall of Fame? I say _hai_.

I agree. What’s really amazing is that he could get to 3,000 in the MLB alone even though he didn’t get to the MLB until he was 27.

Jeter is in an 0-for-12 slump right now. But that’s not such a shock given how hot he was for the last two months or so. He’ll get past Gehrig in the next couple of days.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/43 "2009-09-09T19:02:43Z")

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I’m looking forward to seeing John Smoltz start against Brad Penny in Game 7 of the NLCS.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/44 "2009-09-09T21:35:38Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> …and the winning run would’ve been out at the plate if Molina had hung on to the friggin’ ball.

That was my impression from 325, and I’m annoyed to find that I was correct.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/45 "2009-09-09T21:39:15Z")

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> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#):
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> That was my impression from 325, and I’m annoyed to find that I was correct.

Ok, that’s just bizarre. I was in 325, too.

But that does invalidate our survey. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/46 "2009-09-09T22:44:01Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I’m looking forward to seeing John Smoltz start against Brad Penny in Game 7 of the NLCS.

I like the way you’re thinking - as long as we can add that Julio Lugo gets the game-winning hit. 🆒

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/47 "2009-09-09T22:56:56Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Yep, the Cards are tied for the best record in the NL, 10.5 ahead of the Cubs, and 9-1 in their last 10 games. Granted, their last 10 have included sets against the Nationals and Padres. But I’m pretty excited. Back in April, I think I predicted the Cards would flirt with the NL wildcard. I didn’t see this kind of season coming.
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> Starting Pitching? Check!  
> Bullpen? Check! (mostly - Motte could be more consistent)  
> Defense? Check! (they’ve even stopped pulling Schumaker off 2B in late-and-close situations)  
> Hitting? Check!  
> October baseball? Check!!

I hate you.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/48 "2009-09-10T00:01:41Z")

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Albert smacked another two homers today, and is now just 3 short of 50. He’s putting up the best OPS season of his career.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/49 "2009-09-10T00:42:33Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Albert smacked another two homers today, and is now just 3 short of 50. He’s putting up the best OPS season of his career.

Pretty good day for Wainwright too – 5 hits, 1 BB, 6 K, 0 runs over 7 innings. He’s got a pretty nice curveball. He gets guys to swing at balls as they’re bouncing off home plate.

ETA: Sorry, **FoieGrasIsEvil** … No, not really.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/50 "2009-09-10T01:23:00Z")

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Derek Jeter just tied Lou Gehrig for most hits ever by a Yankee.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/51 "2009-09-10T03:34:41Z")

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I am considering hiring Tonya Harding to…uh…meet-and-greet with the Colorado Rockies. These guys just won’t go away! Another comeback win tonight. Six wins in a row. And if the Dodgers lose tonight, they’ll only be 2.5 up on the Rockies. Fortunately, the Giants lost today, so we still have a pretty good lock on at least the wild card, but I’d rather it not be that close.

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/52 "2009-09-10T04:30:53Z")

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Just to throw it out there, Pirates are now the losingest team in professional sports history with 17 straight losing seasons. Someday I’ll care about baseball again…

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/53 "2009-09-10T15:47:42Z")

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I see the Rockies and Dodgers are trying to keep things interesting in the West. Rangers are right on the tail of the Red Sox for the Wild Card.

Yanks got Gardner back but may have lost David Robertson, a really excellent middle reliever with the second best K/9 ratio in the majors (40+ IP). He is off visiting Dr. Andrews. There is hope he’ll be back. The Yanks are now very likely to win home field advantage and with that they can choose the playoff format they want. They could choose the one that allows for only 3 starters and have Joba in the bullpen. That should be a plus replacement for Robertson if he is not available.

Jeter is on a pace for hits that actually exceeds Pete Roses. Though I doubt he will play as long. But he should be able to get pretty far up the hits list. I believe he is second in hits only to Ichiro since Ichiro joined the majors.

What’s the news around the leagues?  
Cross posting from: [Baseball 2009 - September & end of season Edition and Pennant Races(?)](http://www.mellophant.com/forums/showthread.php?p=133398#post133398)

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/54 "2009-09-10T16:10:01Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I see the Rockies and Dodgers are trying to keep things interesting in the West.

It’s actually brought about an unusual situation: both Dodgers and Giants fans want the same thing right now—for the Rockies to start losing games. The Dodgers want to keep their lead in the division, and the Giants want to stay in touch for the Wild Card.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/55 "2009-09-12T02:30:22Z")

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Atta boy #2.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/56 "2009-09-12T03:16:53Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Atta boy #2.

Now for 3000 and then for 4000.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/57 "2009-09-12T05:20:37Z")

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Congratulations to Jeter on a great achievement. And this also reminds you of how amazing Gehrig was as a player, which gets overshadowed by Ruth and by Gehrig’s famous exit from the game, not to mention his own consecutive games streak. Gehrig got his 2,721 in fewer at bats than Jeter and was also 35 when he retired, and he hit for great power and average in a time of lower scoring. To hold a record like this for 72 years on a team that has seen so many great players is really remarkable. A tip of the hat to Jeter, and here’s hoping to see his 3,000th hit in maybe June or July 2011.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/58 "2009-09-12T05:21:49Z")

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Wow. The Rockies are amazing. Down 1-0 with only three hits through eight innings, facing the Padres closer, they load the bases with two outs. Yorvit Torrealba, down 0-2, works it and finally hits a three run triple.

Eight in a row. Five and a half up in the wildcard race. Two behind the Dodgers for the Division lead.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/59 "2009-09-12T15:51:09Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Congratulations to Jeter on a great achievement. And this also reminds you of how amazing Gehrig was as a player, which gets overshadowed by Ruth and by Gehrig’s famous exit from the game, not to mention his own consecutive games streak. Gehrig got his 2,721 in fewer at bats than Jeter and was also 35 when he retired, and he hit for great power and average in a time of lower scoring. To hold a record like this for 72 years on a team that has seen so many great players is really remarkable. A tip of the hat to Jeter, and here’s hoping to see his 3,000th hit in maybe June or July 2011.

Hard to believe a team with such a long history has never had a player garner 3000 hits. in a career.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-september-2009/508570/60 "2009-09-12T16:15:56Z")

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The life-long Yankee hater in me is compelled to say…did we get this much fuss when the Cardinals career hit record was broken? Or the Red Sox? Or Giants?

But I will give up an atta-boy to Jeter.

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