# Baseball Spring Training Round-Up

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [March 21, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220 "2008-03-21T14:13:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/81 "2008-03-27T14:16:08Z")

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Below the belt! Below the belt!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/82 "2008-03-27T14:24:53Z")

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[QUOTE=bbs2k]  
Carl Pavano!  
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Hey, that’s fighting dirty.  
Bucky, Buckner & Boone back at you.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/83 "2008-03-27T14:29:09Z")

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I think Matt Clement would work as well. Pedro was the steal of that offseason. He is only hurt half the time 😉

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/84 "2008-03-27T14:35:33Z")

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To his credit, Clement only took one ball on his chin, unlike most of the other Sawx.

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**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/85 "2008-03-27T14:40:05Z")

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Booooooo!

(this thread is getting to be a dirt fight. I love it!)

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/86 "2008-03-27T14:46:29Z")

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I was afraid that might have been a little over the top…

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/87 "2008-03-27T14:52:33Z")

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[QUOTE=bbs2k]  
(this thread is getting to be a dirt fight. I love it!)  
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\<throws second base into shallow center field\>

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/88 "2008-03-27T15:43:54Z")

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Hey, **silenus** – any idea what these guys are on about? Sounds like some sort of silly rivalry. Glad we don’t have to deal with any of that.

::keeps an eye out for **TroyMcClureSF** ::

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**Author:** ![Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_the_turtle/32/2926_2.png) [@Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_the_Turtle)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/89 "2008-03-27T21:51:34Z")

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[QUOTE=What the … !!!]  
This year I can’t find a good ranking of player fantasy values on the net.

Last year I came across one that allowed you to filter based on league and position.

Anybody know of a good one?  
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I couldn’t find one either (not free anyway, there was a s/w DL for $30 one), so I bought a magazine. The mags do a decent job, but come out way too early. Seems not too many leagues do an old fashioned auction anymore.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/90 "2008-03-27T23:38:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Asimovian]  
Hey, **silenus** – any idea what these guys are on about? Sounds like some sort of silly rivalry. Glad we don’t have to deal with any of that.

::keeps an eye out for **TroyMcClureSF** ::  
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No clue at all. No idea.

By the way, did you read the new _Sports Illustrated_, where they note that the Giants are so bad they’ve been relegated to T-Ball next year?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/91 "2008-03-28T00:24:32Z")

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I keep trying to tell you left coasties that the Yankee/RedSux rivalry is much bigger than the Dodgers and Giants.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/92 "2008-03-28T00:56:30Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
I keep trying to tell you left coasties that the Yankee/RedSux rivalry is much bigger than the Dodgers and Giants.  
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A rivalry has no significance at all to anyone outside it. So, to be honest, no rivalry can be said to be bigger than another.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/93 "2008-03-28T01:02:10Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
A rivalry has no significance at all to anyone outside it. So, to be honest, no rivalry can be said to be bigger than another.  
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Not true, the Yankee/Red Sox rivalry has caused massive annoyance for fans of the other 28 teams because of the way Fox and ESPN over covered it for so long.

I think that is why they are now\* the two most hated teams in baseball, along with their giants salaries. The Mets seem to finish a distant third despite having a payroll not far behind the Sox.

- Well in fairness, hating the Yankees is a tradition that is really older than many sports.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/94 "2008-03-28T02:03:41Z")

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Well, hell’s bells, one of my predictions has already come true, and the freaking season hasn’t even started yet. Jim Edmonds of the Padres is already injured. Apparently, he caught a spike in the batter’s box, and he said his knee felt like someone had hit him from behind with a bat…

Terrific.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/95 "2008-03-28T02:37:05Z")

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The Cards finished spring training on a tear, winning 7 in a row and 12 of their last 14. I know, I know, it’s just spring training. Still, I’m getting excited. They should at least finish the season somewhere north of .500. I hope.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/96 "2008-03-28T02:38:26Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]

- Well in fairness, hating the Yankees is a tradition that is really older than many sports.  
[/QUOTE]

Including baseball. 😃

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/97 "2008-03-28T02:38:49Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Not true, the Yankee/Red Sox rivalry has caused massive annoyance for fans of the other 28 teams because of the way Fox and ESPN over covered it for so long.  
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THere’s no question you folks back East have been at it way longer.

We just do it better. 🙂

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/98 "2008-03-28T02:42:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Asimovian]  
THere’s no question you folks back East have been at it way longer.

We just do it better. 🙂  
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Actually, historically, yours is the transported remnant of what was once the greatest rivalry in sports. Before the exodus, Giants/Dodgers was way more intense then Yankees/Red Sox or Cubs/Cards

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/99 "2008-03-28T09:35:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Fear the Turtle]  
I couldn’t find one either (not free anyway, there was a s/w DL for $30 one), so I bought a magazine. The mags do a decent job, but come out way too early. Seems not too many leagues do an old fashioned auction anymore.  
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Darn!! Anybody care to chime in on this list of players that are available in our league. Those that you think might be worth more/less than the conventional wisdom???  
OF-----------  
J. Jones  
Scott  
Drew  
Owens  
Gutierrez  
Francisco  
Guillen susp  
Gomez SB  
Kubel  
Me. Cabrera  
Cust HR!  
Wilkerson  
Floyd  
Hamilton  
Bradley  
Stairs  
Gaithright SB  
Murphy  
Hollins  
Utility -----------  
Renteria  
Millar  
Varitek  
Pedroia  
Gload  
Barton  
Broussard  
Overbay  
3b -----------  
Lamb  
Blalock  
Hanahan  
Iwamura?  
Rolen DL  
Marte ml?  
Starters ----------  
Garland  
Wakefield  
Willis X  
Greinke  
Garland !  
Hernandez X  
Mussina  
Kennedy  
Silva  
Washburn  
Sonanstine  
McGowan !  
Slowey  
D. Cabrera  
Byrd  
Litsch  
Closers -----------  
Sherrill  
Percival  
Reyes  
Wheeler  
Guardado  
Wilson  
Neshek future  
Betencourt  
Fukumori future

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-spring-training-round-up/442220/100 "2008-03-28T12:43:07Z")

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[QUOTE=What the … !!!]  
Darn!! Anybody care to chime in on this list of players that are available in our league. Those that you think might be worth more/less than the conventional wisdom???  
OF-----------  
J. Jones  
Scott  
Drew  
Owens  
Gutierrez  
Francisco  
Guillen susp  
Gomez SB  
Kubel  
Me. Cabrera  
Cust HR!  
Wilkerson  
Floyd  
Hamilton  
Bradley  
Stairs  
Gaithright SB  
Murphy  
Hollins  
Utility -----------  
Renteria  
Millar  
Varitek  
Pedroia  
Gload  
Barton  
Broussard  
Overbay  
3b -----------  
Lamb  
Blalock  
Hanahan  
Iwamura?  
Rolen DL  
Marte ml?  
Starters ----------  
Garland  
Wakefield  
Willis X  
Greinke  
Garland !  
Hernandez X  
Mussina  
Kennedy  
Silva  
Washburn  
Sonanstine  
McGowan !  
Slowey  
D. Cabrera  
Byrd  
Litsch  
Closers -----------  
Sherrill  
Percival  
Reyes  
Wheeler  
Guardado  
Wilson  
Neshek future  
Betencourt  
Fukumori future  
[/QUOTE]

Might help to see your current roster. how many teams in this league?  
Hamilton is having an awesome spring.  
Gomez looks like he has won the center field/lead off competition. He is very raw, but can fly.  
Greinke should not be a free agent, nor Mcgowen. Grab them both if you have room.  
Garland! is not as good as Garland 😉

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