# Baseball Thread September 2008

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 4, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994 "2008-09-04T15:20:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/201 "2008-09-21T20:28:14Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Did the Yankees win the first game in Yankee Stadium?

Yes and it was against the Red Sox and Babe Ruth hit a Homer in it to have the first Home Run ever hit in the House That Ruth Built. They went on to win their first ever World Series that year.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/202 "2008-09-21T20:39:19Z")

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I wish the Yankees all the best tonight. One of my students will be there, and has promised to bring me a bag of peanuts from the final game ever played in The House That Ruth Built.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/203 "2008-09-21T21:02:19Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I wish the Yankees all the best tonight. One of my students will be there, and has promised to bring me a bag of peanuts from the final game ever played in The House That Ruth Built.

Thank you, I know how much you hate the Yanks. I really do appreciate it.

**dalej42** , I went digging on [Baseball Reference](http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/1923_sched.shtml)and [Retrosheet.org](http://Retrosheet.org) itself aparently neither has the box score from that game.  
The Score was on Wed, Apr 18, 1923 was NYY over BOS 4-1 with [Bob Shawkey](http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/shawkbo01.shtml)getting the Win.

The [Yankee site itself](http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/stadium_history.jsp)has this blurb and [wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_Stadium#History_and_design)matches it.

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> The construction contract was awarded to New York’s White Construction Co. on May 5, 1922 with the edict that the job must be completed “at a definite price” ($2.5-million) and by Opening Day 1923. Incredibly, it was. In only 284 working days, Yankee Stadium was ready for its inaugural game on April 18, 1923 vs. the Boston Red Sox.
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> Officially, 74,200 fans packed Yankee Stadium for their first glimpse of Baseball’s grandest facility while thousands more milled around outside after the fire department finally ordered the gates closed. Before the game began, John Phillip Sousa and the Seventh Regiment Band led both clubs to the flagpole in deep center field where the American flag and the Yankees’ 1922 pennant were raised. **Appropriately, Babe Ruth christened his new home with a three-run homer to cap a four-run third inning as the Yankees coasted to a 4-1 win**.

My bold

I am willing to admit, that I expect to weep tonight. I don’t remember going to the pre-renovation Yankee Stadium. The first Yankee Game I saw was at the not so wonderful Shea Stadium in 1974. I understand I may have been to the old stadium when I was too young to remember, but I am not sure. I love Yankee Stadium and when the 40-50 Yankees of the past show up to say good bye it will be a remarkable moment.

Besides all the pure baseball moments, the Stadium was home to the Greatest Football Game ever played (Colts beat Giants). The Game where Knute Rockne apparently gave his “and win just one for the Gipper.” speech was at Yankee Stadium when they were facing Army there for there Annual Game in 1928.

Then of course, there is the most famous speech in Sports History, Lou Gehrig’s farewell, “[Yet today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth](http://www.lougehrig.com/about/speech.htm)” given by the dying Gehrig on July 4th, 1939.  
Jim

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/204 "2008-09-21T23:07:06Z")

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I’ll also be pulling for the Yanks tonight. Mind you, I won’t be terribly sad if they lose (as it’ll clinch a playoff berth for the Sox), but a Yankee win would be more… poetic. Rivalries aside, it’s a great franchise closing out a great stadium.

Here’s to history.

Go Yankees.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/205 "2008-09-21T23:19:31Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> I’ll also be pulling for the Yanks tonight. Mind you, I won’t be terribly sad if they lose (as it’ll clinch a playoff berth for the Sox), but a Yankee win would be more… poetic. Rivalries aside, it’s a great franchise closing out a great stadium.
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> Here’s to history.
> 
> Go Yankees.

🙂 Thanks.

I am watching the super long extended pre-game and they confirmed the Gipper speech was at Yankee Stadium. They also included one I am ashamed I left off, the very famous Joe Lewis Defeat of Max Schmeling that according to legend discedited the Nazi doctrine of “Aryan superiority.”

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/206 "2008-09-21T23:25:16Z")

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I’m not as worked up as I thought I’d be. They’re moving across the parking lot, not to Jersey. I love the current stadium and have spent some of my most happy days and nights there (including Game 6 of the '96 Series.) But I’m certain the new building will be awesome, and it’s the same drive or subway ride. Just an upgrade.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/207 "2008-09-21T23:28:28Z")

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Wouldn’t it be kind of fitting for the Yankees to be eliminated tonight? It is the end of an era in multiple ways.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/208 "2008-09-21T23:33:00Z")

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> [@Hawkeyeop](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be kind of fitting for the Yankees to be eliminated tonight? It is the end of an era in multiple ways.

First, I would like to note that was your 666th post.  
Second, it would be far more appropriate for Mariano Rivera to close out the game with a save.

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**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/209 "2008-09-21T23:45:40Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> What 2 LA teams? There **aren’t** 2 LA teams. There is ONE, repeat, ONE LA team. What you are thinking of is an Orange County team with delusions of grandeur.

You’re just jealous of their thundersticks.

OK, OK: Are you willing to share a media market with them, then? “Five of the six teams from the 3 biggest media markets”? Mm, catchy. Forget it, post withdrawn. Imagine the linguistic hurdles we’d be going through if Steinbrenner moved the Yankees to Jersey.

My Mets-fan family is full of wounded Dodger fans.

Good luck to the crosstown rivals, by the way, I think they should take this one for posterity. Oddly, the 2 Yankee fans in my band are way more irked by the stadium being torn down than by missing the postseason. Although I suspect part of that might be because it’s the Rays in first they think it’s all a bad dream and are going to wake up on March 31st.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/210 "2008-09-22T16:26:27Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> It only took two weeks for the Dodgers to go from 4.5 back to 4.5 ahead. While I’d like to agree with you, I’m not ready to relax just yet. Especially since we have six games left against The Hated Ones, whom I’m sure will be ready to do whatever it takes to knock us out.

[You got that right.](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/21/SPQ11329J3.DTL)

“‘I don’t know what next year holds for me, my future with the Giants,’ Aurilia said. ‘But if this is how I can go out in my last game at Dodger Stadium, with a hit like that, it would be pretty cool.’”

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/211 "2008-09-22T17:25:58Z")

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> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#):
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> [You got that right.](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/21/SPQ11329J3.DTL)
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> “‘I don’t know what next year holds for me, my future with the Giants,’ Aurilia said. ‘But if this is how I can go out in my last game at Dodger Stadium, with a hit like that, it would be pretty cool.’”

Hmm..Giants knock out the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks make the playoffs..I’ll take it.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/212 "2008-09-22T17:28:17Z")

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If the Tigers get swept by KC they could go into last place. What a step down from where we started.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/213 "2008-09-22T17:35:06Z")

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I never thought I’d say these words but:

GO CUBS GO!!! [sub](for your next four games only)[/sub] Beat those Mets!!! [sub](and then go into the tank)[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/214 "2008-09-22T18:21:04Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Hmm..Giants knock out the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks make the playoffs..I’ll take it.

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, here. You guys have a lot of work to do against the Cards this week.

Still, I was at that game yesterday. I have rarely been that frustrated with the Dodgers’ offense, and the Dodgers have had some BAD offense in recent years. Credit to all the pitchers on both sides of yesterday’s game, but still – bases loaded with nobody out, and not even a sac fly, guys? C’mon.

ETA: **Troy** , credit to your boys, seriously. Even the game we won, you guys would NOT go away quietly. It was hard to tell which team at Dodger Stadium was the playoff contender this weekend.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/215 "2008-09-23T02:41:55Z")

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Tonight Brandon Webb won the Cy Young award.

D-backs ahead in the bottom of the 7th. 2 on, Albert Pujols up. Webb strikes him out.

If the D-backs hold on and win, Webb gets win 22 and should win the NL Cy Young award.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/216 "2008-09-23T02:47:19Z")

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Red Sox lost, Yanks stay alive one more night.

Mets Lost and Phillies won. Mets are 2 games back in the NL East and 1 game up in the Wild Card over the Brewers who were idle.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/217 "2008-09-23T03:32:26Z")

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D-backs win. Webb probably locked up the Cy Young. We’re putting pressure on the Dodgers.

Diamondbacks and the playoffs?

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/218 "2008-09-23T04:33:21Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> D-backs win. Webb probably locked up the Cy Young. We’re putting pressure on the Dodgers.
> 
> Diamondbacks and the playoffs?

I read an article this morning that put the D-backs odds at 7% to make it in. Six games left for each of us, now, and you have to win at least three more than we do. I still like our chances, even if you guys are hot right now.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/219 "2008-09-23T12:40:08Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Red Sox lost, Yanks stay alive one more night.

More importantly the Rays magic number is now down to 4. I’d hate to see the Yankees get in, especially since they owned us this year. Fortunately it absolutely will not happen.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baseball-thread-september-2008/461994/220 "2008-09-23T13:39:57Z")

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I fart in the general direction of Brewers fans as the lowly Reds make your life miserable…

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