# Basic Transistor Question

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**Created:** [April 11, 2007, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/basic-transistor-question/399602 "2007-04-11T02:59:30Z")\
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If you know Vbe and Vce how do you find Vcb? Isn’t Vce=Vbe-Vcb?

Common emitter, Forward Active by the way.

Thanks!

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[QUOTE=Stinkpalm]  
If you know Vbe and Vce how do you find Vcb? Isn’t Vce=Vbe-Vcb?

Common emitter, Forward Active by the way.  
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If by “Vbe”, “Vce”, and “Vcb” you mean the actual voltages(\*) between base and emitter, etc., for a given transistor state, then Vce=Vbe+Vcb. (Remember that Vce=Vc-Ve, where Vc and Ve are the collector and emitter voltages relative to some arbitrary fixed reference. So Vbe+Vcb=(Vb-Ve)+(Vc-Vb)=Vc-Ve=Vce.) This doesn’t depend on what kind of transistor you have, though of course the likely values of these voltages does.

(\*) I just say this to make sure you’re not using tabulated values like the Vce saturation voltage in this calculation; not all of the tabulated values refer to the same transistor state.
