# Batgirl movie put into the vault. Not to be released

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [August 2, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991 "2022-08-02T22:31:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/21 "2022-08-03T15:54:20Z")

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For reference, here’s some stuff from Twitter about what a jackwagon the new CEO is.

Shitting on WB’s 50-year relationship with Clint Eastwood:

> <https://mobile.twitter.com/strohltopia/status/1554636402830331906>

More specifics on how he’s taking a howitzer to the production slate he inherited:

> <https://mobile.twitter.com/sapphyreblayze/status/1554696923063402497>

Basically, anyone who isn’t a guaranteed tentpole topliner is now looking somewhere other than WB for a deal. I predict in five years their creative pool will be gutted and Zaslav will be gone.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/22 "2022-08-03T16:09:59Z")

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Yeah, it seems to be that the new guy has a vision for DC and it doesn’t involve anything from the old guard or Snyder. Beyond The Trailer says that WB will likely pause all DC stuff after Aquaman 2, Shazam 2 and Black Adam.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/K0oSqrY_rdo/hqdefault.jpg "Batgirl Movie CANCELLED - The Flash, HBO Max NEXT?! Warner Bros Discovery DC Breakdown") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0oSqrY_rdo)

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/23 "2022-08-03T16:17:56Z")

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Who does Warner Bros have as their equivalent to Kevin Feige?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/24 "2022-08-03T16:19:42Z")

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Nobody right now.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/25 "2022-08-03T16:24:14Z")

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That’s a shame.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/26 "2022-08-03T16:57:59Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> The whole DCEU is a dumpster fire at this point. In addition to _Batgirl_, they’ve got the completed _Flash_ movie that’s impossible to release due to Ezra Miller.

I hadn’t heard about any of this and I have to say it’s really disappointing/disturbing. I really enjoyed Miller’s performances as The Flash, but they seem to have gone off the rails in a major way. Yikes.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/27 "2022-08-03T18:03:17Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I found something that said the budget, at about $90 million, wasn’t enough to make a decent looking film, not even for a streaming release.

Maybe they can put it out as a _Steaming Release_ 💩

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/28 "2022-08-03T22:21:11Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Yeah, it seems to be that the new guy has a vision for DC and it doesn’t involve anything from the old guard or Snyder.

He better keep his hands off _Peacemaker_.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/29 "2022-08-03T22:22:01Z")

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Could this be the beginning of the end for comic book movies? There must be a saturation point somewhere. I’d bet nobody at the time thought Westerns would, for the most part, go away.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/30 "2022-08-03T22:27:40Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Could this be the beginning of the end for comic book movies?

No. DC has been pretty incompetent. Marvel, on the other hand, is a freaking juggernaut1 and seems to be just getting started, with all of the power of Disney behind them. They just revealed a crap-ton of new films and shows in the works, and these projects are both popular and critically acclaimed. (Stinkers like _Morbius_ are bumps on the road, they have many more hits than misses, plus that wasn’t a Disney film either.)

1 I would not be surprised to see an actual _Juggernaut_ movie at some point.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/31 "2022-08-03T22:38:36Z")

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I agree about Marvel; the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been an amazingly success series of films, with many of them having billion-dollar box office revenues. I’ve seen most of the movies but almost none of the TV shows, but it’s a well-integrated machine.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/32 "2022-08-03T22:44:47Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> He better keep his hands off _Peacemaker_.

James Gunn has already said it’s okay…I think his exact follow-upwords were, “calm down, people.”

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/33 "2022-08-03T22:54:37Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I’ve seen most of the movies but almost none of the TV shows, but it’s a well-integrated machine.

I’m the opposite—I’ve seen several of the TV shows and almost none of the movies.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/34 "2022-08-03T22:57:38Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> No. DC has been pretty incompetent. Marvel, on the other hand, is a freaking juggernaut1 and seems to be just getting started, with all of the power of Disney behind them.

Agreed. With the exception of the first Wonder Woman film (and maybe Aquaman), the DC films over the past decade have had, to be kind, mixed responses – I place a fair amount of the blame on Zack Snyder’s grimdark vision.

I have a number of friends who are big fans of the DC comic books, and while they have not generally liked the movies, they’ve had a lot of love for the DC television shows from the past few years.

Marvel’s had a few misses (you mentioned Morbius; the Inhumans TV series would be another), but overall, they really are pretty danged consistent.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/35 "2022-08-03T23:04:18Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> the Inhumans TV series would be another

I tried to blank that from my mind, thank you very much. 😖

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/36 "2022-08-03T23:16:38Z")

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Tax write-downs aren’t magic (excepting things like the thing Uwe Boll used to pull).

So you release it in theaters. It nets $20M and you cut some taxes off $70 million instead of $90M.

But there could be clauses in various contracts that require HBO to pony up so much money to people once the movie is released. No company would ever admit to deliberately doing this so a cover story is always given since otherwise they can be sued.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/37 "2022-08-03T23:27:41Z")

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I’ve also heard the Joker sequel is safe. Not that I care, but some might.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/38 "2022-08-04T00:30:39Z")

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Yes!! I have heard that Lady Gaga is in talks to play Harley Quinn.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/39 "2022-08-04T01:40:58Z")

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I think the next 12-18 months are going to be a bloodbath for streaming services as the pandemic fades away, inflation and recession settle in, and subscriber numbers plummet. So this decision does make some amount of sense, cutting costs and folding HBO Max and Discovery+ together is going to keep them going longer than other services.

That said, I think cutting projects that are complete or nearly complete is needlessly aggressive, and the extent to which they seem to be favoring Discovery over Warner Brothers content is weird. Discovery shows are cheaper but nobody from Naked and Afraid XL is going to end up in MultiVersus.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batgirl-movie-put-into-the-vault-not-to-be-released/968991/40 "2022-08-04T12:37:23Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> > [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> > He better keep his hands off _Peacemaker_.
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> James Gunn has already said it’s okay…I think his exact follow-upwords were, “calm down, people.”

Apparently, the entire slate of HBO Max scripted shows is on the chopping block, which would include _Peacemaker, Harley Quinn, Doom Patrol, Titans, Our Flag Means Death_ and others. However, it does look like Gunn got some sort of assurance about _Peacemaker,_

> **[HBO Max Will Reportedly Stop Making Scripted TV Shows](https://screenrant.com/hbo-max-scripted-shows-development-cancelled/)**
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> HBO Max will be absorbed into HBO.

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