Sure, but SHAZAM’s budget was higher than $62.5m, and its gross was lower than 17x of half of that.
You have my vote!
(or is that “You have my axe!”?)
Look, Superman is a huge film draw and so is Batman, and just their names alone would guarantee “Batman vs Superman” would make some $$.
The Films, were by-and-large. box office successes. Yes, DC fans are not happy with them, but they made plenty of moola.
Justice League and Justice League Unlimited are, in many ways, some of the best DC style superhero stuff ever released.
The Best Superhero Film ever, with The Incredibles and a couple of MCU films coming in there.
And, you’d be right.
And, you’d be right.
That would be Spider-Man into the SpiderVerse.
That may be true, but Disney seems to have integrated things much better with the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It amazes me that they’ve been doing this for almost fifteen years, with a couple of dozen movies already released and a dozen more still to be. And then there are related TV shows (though I’ve never watched those).
I think I got that quote wrong, actually. Google screwed it up.
my bad. But it still had a very nice profit. It just kinda bombed in China.
Doesn’t change my answer.
And that’s fair. If you read the article, it includes different perspectives of what the term means, so really we can both be “correct”. 
It’s not fully objective.
Of course, that also means that if people complain about the films being “grimdark”, it’s difficult to know exactly what they mean by that, and difficult to disagree.
It’s as if a car is a blue-green shade, and you argue whether it’s blue or green.
In the end you like them or you don’t. I don’t like most of them but I love some of them. (Wonder Woman, Aquaman, The Suicide Squad, and The Batman in particular.)
This is supportable.
Any answer other than The Incredibles is suspect.
…for me, grimdark means it starts with a setting that is particularly dystopian, amoral, and violent, and it ends with a setting that is particularly dystopian, amoral, and violent.
If it ends on a hopeful note, if the world changes for the better, if the movie ends with the hero determined that things don’t need to be grim any more, I don’t think that’s grimdark.
For an example of this: “The Mist” movie version for me is grimdark and in contrast “The Mist”, the original novella is the opposite.
How would you classify ROBOCOP?
…dystopian, but not grimdark.
I have to agree.
Or at least it would have been until the brain-meltingly terrible second movie retroactively made the first one worse.
I’m glad you think so. Again, though, what matters to them is if they are altering the behaviour of their customers such that they make substantially more than 200 million additional dollars from having made the film.
I’d be absolutely delighted if Netflix spent $200 million on high quality baseball documentaries, rebooting “High Stakes Poker,” and pumping out a new Beavis and Butt-Head movie every two months, but I suspect that would not be a good expenditure of their money as opposed to other options.
“Consistency” is the most appropriate adjective one could possibly give Marvel, even if you count stinkers. Their movies all feel the same, whether you’re talking about the super good ones or the not so good ones. They are, in the modern parlance, a particular sort of “Content.”
To be fair, the third and fourth Christopher Reeve Superman films were also pretty awful.
I was 9 when the fourth one came out and when we left the theater, my Dad said, “That…was really bad.”
We all agreed the special effects looked worst than the first movie.
Wonder how long it will be before Batgirl is bootlegged, like Corman’s execrable Fantastic Four?
The third was bad, or at least not as good. The fourth was hideous.
It’s hard to follow General Zod though. Terrence Stamp made the second film a classic.
I’m also now reminded of one of my old favorite web sites from many years ago.
You can tell it’s an old web site. I still love the article about bumble bees.
It turns out that this bee was trying to lead your ruler into a trap. It arrived at some strange cone-like object and went inside it. I tapped this object while shouting “COWARD!” and immediately an army of these little bees came flying out at me. They all started flying at me and attempted to prick me with tiny needles. A smile grew on my face as they did everything they could to destroy me. But their trap had failed… failed miserably just like every one of you humans do on a daily basis.
I’d love to see that kind of villain done again properly in a film.
Is it wrong that I want to see Batgirl even more now?
Actually, I didn’t know they were even working on this film. But I want to see Michael Keaton again as Batman, damn it.