# Batman: Dead End. Awful, Bad or Just Plain Dumb?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 22, 2003, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052 "2003-07-22T00:52:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052/21 "2003-07-23T02:47:41Z")

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OK, reinstalling Quicktime got it working.

I was impressed. It was…strange…but it was good.

Guess Joker’s not going back to Arkham, then.

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052/22 "2003-07-23T03:18:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Askia \*  
> \*\*(smacking forehead) **Aceospades** , that the SAME LINK I posted in the OP!!
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> You bloated UNWASHED ignorant and STUPIFIED masses of EAGER underachievement! Jesus KEE-RIST almighty! I ALMOST don’t know 'ZACTLY why I ATTEMPT to bother ACTIVATING codespeak if LITERATE folks like you INSIST you can’t TELL my meaning EXACTLY when I say you should “borrow” a “copy” from a “friend” just to “look” at … I mean… _what’s next_ … schoolboy code? Will I have to resort to using the first letter of every third word and _spell out_ what you should do…?
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> Yeesh! 😃 \*\*

Bah.

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**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052/23 "2003-07-23T03:32:16Z")

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That Batman and Joker look more like my vision of the characters than any other live-action I’ve seen (my opinion of how they should look being mostly influenced by the Animated Series).

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052/24 "2003-07-23T03:57:38Z")

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**Neurotik** – don’t agree? Ah, well. It was a warped message intended for warped minds.

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**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052/25 "2003-07-23T04:25:20Z")

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When I first saw the Alien, I thought “woah!” and when the 3 dotted laser sight appeared on it’s head, I knew that this was one of the coolest fucking things ever. I’m a geek, I know, but I thought it was a lot cooler than had it been, say, the Riddler.

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**Author:** ![Aceospades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Aceospades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aceospades)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052/26 "2003-07-23T13:06:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Askia \*  
> \*\*(smacking forehead) **Aceospades** , that the SAME LINK I posted in the OP!!
> 
> You bloated UNWASHED ignorant and STUPIFIED masses of EAGER underachievement! Jesus KEE-RIST almighty! I ALMOST don’t know 'ZACTLY why I ATTEMPT to bother ACTIVATING codespeak if LITERATE folks like you INSIST you can’t TELL my meaning EXACTLY when I say you should “borrow” a “copy” from a “friend” just to “look” at … I mean… _what’s next_ … schoolboy code? Will I have to resort to using the first letter of every third word and _spell out_ what you should do…?
> 
> Yeesh! 😃 \*\*

sorry, i didn’t see your link in the OP ☹

i **did** understand what you ment by “borrowing a copy” though…

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052/27 "2003-07-28T04:06:44Z")

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Just saw this, yeah I know I’m late, and this is a great short flick. Really impressive to see what the director was able to do with out a ton of money. I made sure not to read this thread before I saw it so I was blown away by the short.

I don’t understand all the hate coming from people about this short, not here but from a lot of other places. Sure it wasn’t the ultimate fan boy but it was pretty close.

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**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052/28 "2003-07-28T04:28:40Z")

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I couldn’t get the QT link in this thread to work either… but AICN had a link to an [MPEG](http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/) that does seem to work. I’m downloading it now.

Just based on the stills, this looks very cool.

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**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052/29 "2003-07-28T05:22:16Z")

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OK, that was one of the coolest surprises _ever_. I really liked how they mixed music for each of the “villains” in… really effective!

Nicely done effects, great costumes, good fight scenes. When is Sandy Collora directing a feature-length Batman flick? I’ll see it! I haven’t seen the last two…

And the Joker was especially cool… very much influenced by Dave McKean’s take on the Joker in _Arkham Asylum_, I’d say.

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**Author:** ![Sock\_Munkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Sock\_Munkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sock_Munkey)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-dead-end-awful-bad-or-just-plain-dumb/190052/30 "2003-07-28T05:55:28Z")

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I snagged a copy, and if you listen close you can hear a sort of voice-over news report kinda thing in the beginning saying that the Joker just busted out of Arkham. The costumes were great and the fights were nice and bone-jarring but the actor didn’t qite sound the way batman should. I think they should have just stuck with the one kind of foe showing up after the joker, having two just makes it seem too fanboy-ish. Granted this didn’t stop me from liking it.

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