Wow, talk about unboxed spoilers! 
Well, Moxon was actually so freaked out by Batman’s confrontation (wearing the bat-costume Thomas Wayne had worn when Moxon had kidnapped him decades earlier - it’s a long story) that he panicked, ran blindly into a busy street and was run over by a truck.
Anyhoo… if they ever make a Dark Knight movie, I am so rooting for Rutger Hauer.
I would totally agree, I really love him…but isn’t he getting kind of long in the tooth now?
I have to day that as far as being what it was meant to be, Batman Forever is the best. And Val Kilmer was basically forced to play his role that role. I mean, the film needed him to be the straightman, at least as Bruce Wayne.
Well, so is the Batman portrayed in the Dark Knight comics. Heck, if special effects can allow an 83 year-old Christopher Lee to fight hyperkinetic light saber battles, I’m sure Hauer can be used as effectively.
I just get a much greater sense of menace from Hauer’s left pinky than from Keaton, Kilmer and Clooney combined. I’ll go see Bale tonight. I’m sure he’ll do fine.
Ok, then Hauer! Because I adored him in LadyHawke, even with the super-cheesy music. Those oh-so-cold eyes…and that weathered face…I think I half fell in love with him myself.
How about Victor Garber from Alias for Dark Knight Returns?
Huh. Just noticed Hauer has a role in Batman Begins, as “Richard Earle” (menacing, I hope). Also, Richard Brake is credited as “Joe Chill”, so I guess this movie is going back to the comic-book story and dumping the whole Jack Napier thing, which is okey-dokey with me since I dislike stories in which there’s some big cosmic sense of destiny tying all the characters together (i.e. Bruce Wayne’s parents’ killer is the exact same guy he will fight years later; Yoda meets Chewbacca during the clone wars; a young Greedo is watching the pod race, etc.)
Yeah, the Joker isn’t even in this new movie, have no fear.
I always wanted to see David Bowie play the Joker, especially the effeminate Joker from Dark Knight Returns. I always thought Bowie could make him compelling, menacing, more than a little fey, and damn creepy all at the same time in a way that Nicholson’s macho, manic portrayal didn’t accomplish.
Or Clark Kent and Lex Luthor were best friends in Smallville. :rolleyes:
I’ve never seen an episode of the TV show, but I understand they’ve recently shoehorned (more like sledgehammered) this bit of stupidity into continuity in the comics as well. Totally contrived, not to mention unnecessary.
…Young Greedo watching the pod race? …Uhhhhhmmmmm… What?
And wasn’t the young Lex and Clark being friends part of Superboy continuity at some point?
Sure, but he was just doing a Jack Nicholson-Joker wanna-be routine. And having Tommy Lee Jones doing another Jack Nicholson-Joker wanna-be routine was too much.
I say to just watch the first Batman movie, then go straight to the various WB animated Bat-stuff. Mask of the Phantasm spanks the live-action movies so hard in terms of writing, characterization, action, pathos, and suspense, it’s not even funny. And Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Mr. Freeze isn’t worthy to be mentioned in the same time zone as the animated Victor Fries – there’s a damn good reason “Heart of Ice” won an Emmy…
[QUOTE=Push You DownAnd wasn’t the young Lex and Clark being friends part of Superboy continuity at some point?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but it was wisely done away with post-Crisis (as was Superboy himself) in an effort to streamline the mythos. Really, why do Superman and Luthor need some sort of contrived history or forced “connection” to be enemies? Luthor is a bad guy. That’s all Superman needs to want him stopped.
Superboy met young Lex Luthor in a story titled, subtly enough, “How Luthor Met Superboy”, in Adventure Comics #271 (1960), which among other elements included Superboy’s rather careless use of his superbreath to extinguish a fire in young Luthor’s lab, spilling some chemicals that made Luther’s hair fall out. I suppose this might help explain the lifelong obsession and hatred L feels for S. Post-Crisis, the premise of a youtfhul encounter was dropped.
Greedo’s scene in Phantom Menace, deleted for theatrical release but included on the DVD, involved a fistfight with Anakin (offhand I forget if Greedo swings first) and a warning from Qui-Gon that young Greedo would come to a bad end if he didn’t adjust his attitude. Unlike the Luthor/Superboy thing, in which a complete story is told about the youthful encounter, Greedo’s intended presence in Ep 1 and Chewbacca’s in Ep 3 add nothing except moments of fanwankery.
What a wonderfull term. 
In Detective Comics #678 (part of Zero Hour), Batman discovers Joe Chill was incapacitated at the time of the murder, leaving him clueless as to who killed his parents.
I thought so, too. It’s definitely not original with me. Evil Captor has the first documented use in the Café, March 2004, and I’m quite certain it didn’t originate with him.
The Six Minute Guide to Fanwank, and they probably didn’t invent it, either.
Alas, the dialogue reeks.
Sample:
“Are we going to try to love each other?”
Not a terrible movie, but to me it was very disappointing. I have high hopes for the new franchise, though.
I posted this in another thread about 3 weeks ago, but here goes again:
I rented this movie last month and was disappointed. I hung with the Goths in 1988/89/90, so this movie was pretty popular among my social group at the time of its release.
On second veiwing, I thought Keaton was brilliant. I liked his portrayal of Bruce Wayne. I thought Jack Nicholson was just playing, well, Jack Nicholson. Maybe it was Jack Nicholson playing Jack Nicholson playing Dennis Hopper. He was too old and fat to be the Joker. He seemed to lack the requisite energy and appeared to be, well, acting.
Kim Basinger’s character and subplot were superfluous and really added nothing to the story. It seemed completely tacked-on. I’m renting the 2nd one with DeVito & Pfeiffer tonight, I remember it as being better than the one with Nicholson.
Well, saw Batman Begins…
I tell ya, it something when a jaded fan like me feels an actual honest-to-God no-fooling tingle at the end of a movie. See it. See it often. Bale rocks.