# Batman vs Superman Comic-con Trailer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 11, 2015, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886 "2015-07-11T20:28:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/21 "2015-07-12T02:25:09Z")
> [@magnusblitz](#): > > He’s not even bald for crying out loud! He becomes bald or removes a wig at some point. This is his official promotional image: [https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/jesse-eisenberg-lex-luthor2.jpg?w=670](https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/jesse-eisenberg-lex-luthor2.jpg?w=670) ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/22 "2015-07-12T02:47:03Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > Archer said it best. > [http://youtu.be/wJDpgOaJw7c](http://youtu.be/wJDpgOaJw7c) Wow! I’d missed this! Seeing it made checking this thread to the end worthwhile!! 😃 I’ve even more psyched for the \*B v S \*film. Tim Burton set the trope in '89 with his \*Batman \*(and even better _Batman Returns_). **Only** way to make a really good superhero movie is dark and foreboding. Darker the better! Otherwise it’s a dumb kid’s movie. This new trailer reminds me of what made Will Smith’s \*Hancock \*so original. It was the first film to show how hard being a superhero would be if you had to constantly contend with lawsuits from collateral damage! It would turn you into a drunken, bitter, loner who is reviled instead of worshiped and consequently doesn’t give a shit about helping anyone! _Hancock_ was obviously for laughs, but this is the essence of what a modern Superman has to take into account. The romantic idealism has to finally give way to more than a little practical realism. And using Batman as the plot device for this is genius. And what the heck does Luther say near the end of the clip? ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/23 "2015-07-12T02:59:05Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > And what the heck does Luther say near the end of the clip? ‘The red capes are coming. The red capes are coming.’ Paul Revere warning the world against the super types. ---
**Author:** ![Cumberdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Cumberdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumberdale)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/24 "2015-07-12T03:38:26Z")
The trailer looks very good and I’m looking forward to this. I agree with what was said above, it looks to be serious, not necessarily grim. The thing I’m concerned about is that they may have too much going on with characters that so far are unknown to the audience. Also, I think Zuckerberg could be a good villian, I just don’t yet see him as Lex Luthor. The one thing that is annoying me about Marvel, is what I call the lack of following through. In _Thor: The Dark World_ Loki dies and there is a very good scene between him and Thor, which is then undermined when surprise, Loki’s not dead and he’s still the same asshole he was. At least with _Man of Steel_ it appears that General Zod is still dead. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/25 "2015-07-12T06:40:39Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Good lord, if that entire trailer had been played in slow motion I’m not sure I would have noticed a difference. Three-and-a-half minutes of trailers and how many shots of Superman-as-deity? This was my take as well. And I don’t think that bringing in the fact that Superman killed tens of thousands of people at the end of the last movie as a story element helps to correct the fact that Superman killed tens of thousands of people at the end of the last movie. Also no Antje Traue. I’ll probably skip it. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/26 "2015-07-12T09:52:03Z")
I’m interested to see how they fulfill Holly Hunter’s “Ms. Hunter must appear naked” clause, which I believe is standard in her contracts. I think Affleck looks great as Wayne. I love the bit or greying. He actually sorta looks Clooney-esque. ETA: Major points deducted for once again making us watch Bruce Wayne’s parents get killed. We _know_!!! ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/27 "2015-07-12T11:08:23Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > I’m interested to see how they fulfill Holly Hunter’s “Ms. Hunter must appear naked” clause, which I believe is standard in her contracts. Elastigirl kept her clothes on. Maybe she has an out for superhero movies… Count me as unimpressed. More Space!Jesus! imagery, now with extra backlighting, another revisit to the “Oh, I’m a poor orphan whose parents were killed right in front of him” well, another dip in the 9/11 visual pool, more wonderful SuperParenting advice - from Ma Kent, this time (or Ayn Kent, as I shall call her from now on), too many lines from Lex Zuckerberg (who is working even less for me than Spacey did, which is a feat), and _no fucking lines at all_ from Superman or Wonder Woman. I did like Iron’s Alfred, though, and the WonderWoman _look_ works for me. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/28 "2015-07-12T15:44:22Z")
I watched it again and I enjoyed it even more. Little details I missed because I watched the first time on my phone. Zod’s body, the hint that the Joker killed Robin in this universe. The scene at the end where Superman pulls the doors off the Batmobile and Batman stands to face him is just pure Comic Book Awesome. I was always partial to DC in my reading and love these characters. I am really excited now. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/29 "2015-07-12T16:07:25Z")
I always preferred DC but this isn’t the Superman I want to watch. Burned me with the last two, this one I’ll wait until cable. Why make New Coke when the original is perfectly fine (and I say this as only a middling Superman fan). ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/30 "2015-07-12T18:22:43Z")
I’m wondering how Aquaman is going to show up. Maybe Superman or Batman gets knocked into the ocean and lands at his feet? Please, no “they look at each other and shake their heads, nah, and swim away.” ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/31 "2015-07-12T18:30:44Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > I’m wondering how Aquaman is going to show up. There’s always a canal. Or an inlet, or a fjord. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/32 "2015-07-12T18:50:43Z")
Jesse Eisenberg looks and sounds ridiculous as Luthor. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/33 "2015-07-12T18:51:33Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > There’s always a canal. Or an inlet, or a fjord. I should’ve remembered that from The Simpsons. And there’s always Killer Croc. Seems like he’d be around water sometimes. Not a fjord, though. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/34 "2015-07-12T19:33:22Z")
I don’t think Aquaman, et al., are gonna show up in any significant way. Quick cameos on computer screens and security footage is what I’ve heard. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/35 "2015-07-12T19:40:23Z")
I originally had my doubts and the teaser trailer was interesting, but still doubts. This trailer basically erased all of them away. I’m geeked out now! I think its really cool that they take all of the death and destruction at the end of Man of Steel and make it the reason that Batman decides he needs to stop Superman (it makes that ending of MoS make more sense, at least as a plot device, and is this is first time a major DC or Marvel superhero movie actually contends with all the destruction that superheros cause?). The line where Batman mentions “how many good guys have there been in Gotham; how many stayed that way” was fantastic. I really enjoyed the Affleck take on Batman. I’m there opening night. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/36 "2015-07-12T20:29:24Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Also no Antje Traue. But there will be Christina Wren. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/37 "2015-07-12T20:42:24Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Jesse Eisenberg looks and sounds ridiculous as Luthor. Going in I had no idea how that would pan out but shockingly I thought he worked really well in the little bit we got. You can see the brilliant, mad, egotistical Genius that is the core of Luthor. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/38 "2015-07-12T22:44:19Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Going in I had no idea how that would pan out but shockingly I thought he worked really well in the little bit we got. You can see the brilliant, mad, egotistical Genius that is the core of Luthor. “The red capes are coming?” Just the sound of that set my teeth on edge. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/39 "2015-07-13T00:24:11Z")
The only exception to my positivity was the lines showing Ma Kent was as bad as Pa Kent but it’s possible there is something out of context. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886/40 "2015-07-13T14:38:12Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > Which is why I’m happy to have an alternative to Marvel, because ‘light and funny’ is not my personal preference when it comes to these movies. Not sure why some people want EVERY comic movie to be that way. I wouldn’t say Marvel is all “light and funny”. Certainly Guardians of the Galaxy is a bit over the top, and Thor has a huge fantasy component. But Captain America: The Winter Soldier felt more like a political thriller while Iron Man combines both serious and comedic elements. Ever since Nolan’s Batman, DC has decided that “dark, serious and realistic” is the way to go. While this worked for the Nolan films where Batman is the only superhero, I don’t think this works in a broader world where you have lots of superhero with a wide variety of backstories and personalities besides “DARK-NESS…NO PARENTS!!” The problem is at the end of the day, you have a bunch of guys and girls in costumes fighting over the top supervillains. If you try to make that too serious all the time, it just comes across as joyless and pretentious. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-comic-con-trailer/724886.md?page=3)