# Batman vs Superman: Jesse Eisenberg is Lex Luthor & Jeremy Irons is Alfred **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 31, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222 "2014-01-31T18:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/61 "2014-02-04T07:45:16Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > No, no. The Squid and the Whale is his best performance. No, no. [The Living Wake](http://movies.netflix.com/movie/The_Living_Wake/70084330) is his best performance. (though, admittedly, this isn’t an example to point to for skeptics of his Lex Luthor casting) ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/62 "2014-02-04T11:54:30Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Don’t forget the “And a cameo from The Flash!” announcement. No such announcement was ever made. A lot of the skepticism about this movie is based on people conflating unconfirmed rumors and speculation as fact. There’s a new Flash TV show coming up. Rumor websites have been trying to tie that (and Arrow) to the movie universe. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/63 "2014-02-04T12:14:00Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > A lot of the skepticism about this movie is based on people conflating unconfirmed rumors and speculation as fact. Is “Wonder Woman is a Kryptonian” rumor/speculation or is that a confirmed fact? ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/64 "2014-02-04T14:05:01Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Is “Wonder Woman is a Kryptonian” rumor/speculation or is that a confirmed fact? Speculation that ran as news. The original author had to come back and emphasize that it was his own personal theory. It _is_ a solid theory, though, given the whole ‘ancient Kryptonians crash-landed 20,000 years and one escaped’ thing. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/65 "2014-02-04T15:49:09Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > No such announcement [about The Flash] was ever made. You’re right, it wasn’t an announcement. But it came from Variety, so I put a little more stock in it than your typical movie rumor. > **[Gal Gadot to Play Wonder Woman in ‘Batman vs. Superman’](https://variety.com/2013/film/news/gal-gadot-wonder-woman-batman-vs-superman-1200918310/)** > > Gal Gadot will play Wonder Woman in the untitled “Batman vs. Superman” movie. Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck are set to star with Zack Snyder directing. “Wonder Woman is arguably one of the most powerful female characters of all time and a fan favorite... ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/66 "2014-02-04T17:26:19Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > You’re right, it wasn’t an announcement. But it came from Variety, so I put a little more stock in it than your typical movie rumor. > > [Gal Gadot to Play Wonder Woman in 'Batman vs. Superman'](http://variety.com/2013/film/news/gal-gadot-wonder-woman-batman-vs-superman-1200918310/) There’s a whole lot of gossip and speculation and manufactured ‘leaks’ going about and muddying the waters. Major reliable publications were announcing months ago that Bryan Cranston had signed a multi-picture deal as Luthor. All because one website said so. ---
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/67 "2014-02-05T03:08:56Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Can I now decide that Ben Affleck is the wrong choice if you’re shooting a Daredevil movie? Because I’ve seen him try to use a scary voice as the most intimidating masked vigilante in NYC, and, man, he ain’t right for the part. Wouldn’t it be great if they just dubbed Kevin Conroy’s voice in over his? Side thought, if they ever do a live action “old retired batman in the future” movie/show, they should just use KC. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/68 "2014-02-05T11:09:15Z")
It’s truly a shame that Ben Grimm will never be voiced by Randy Savage. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/69 "2014-02-05T14:24:25Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > It’s truly a shame that Ben Grimm will never be voiced by Randy Savage. Ooooooooooooooh Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah! It’s clobberin’ time. Funny. In the comics, I always imagined him as Ernest Borgnine. ---
**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/70 "2014-02-05T18:17:19Z")
“Jesse Eisenberg will be playing the new Lex Luthor and Superman ends up defeating him by putting him in a room with a cute girl”. > ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222/71 "2014-02-05T18:20:12Z")
> [@johnspartan](#): > > “Jesse Eisenberg will be playing the new Lex Luthor and Superman ends up defeating him by putting him in a room with a cute girl”. Sucks to be Zod. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/batman-vs-superman-jesse-eisenberg-is-lex-luthor-jeremy-irons-is-alfred/680222.md?page=3)