# Battery breakthrough?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 7, 2022, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battery-breakthrough/969248 "2022-08-07T14:24:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battery-breakthrough/969248/21 "2022-08-08T14:11:31Z")

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That’s something people also make the mistake of when they complain about wasted electricity in a house when I say that when it is cold it doesn’t really matter in the wintertime if you are also using an electric heater (as opposed to a heat pump or a fuel heater.)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battery-breakthrough/969248/22 "2022-08-08T20:37:21Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> There is no loss when converting electricity to heat

No loss of energy, but a larger gain of entropy than required. Thermodynamics isn’t just about conservation of energy, but also the productive use of that energy.

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