# Battlestar Galactica 1.9 — "Hand of God" (now with lemon fresh spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 11, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097 "2005-03-11T21:51:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/121 "2005-03-16T12:32:46Z")

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> [@The Tooth](#):
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> Sorry. I thought it was a pretty tame spoiler, to be honest.

Unlike **Cervaise** , I’m smart enough to know I can’t handle **The Tooth**. At least so far …

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**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/122 "2005-03-17T02:37:35Z")

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> [@sturmhauke](#):
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> Sometimes Janeway’s logs mentioned that they traded for such and such or found some rare and valuable materials on a planet they passed or whatever. It’s not really enough to account for all the supplies needed, but what do you expect from Voyager?

Well, they DO have replicators–so all they need to do is get enough spare power to create whatever they need (so one would think dilithium hunting would be their biggest hobby).

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/123 "2005-03-17T03:18:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Well, they DO have replicators

There was a plot device that the replicators required some specific power source that failed and restricted their use. Hence [shudder] Nelix the cook.[/shudder]

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/124 "2005-03-17T04:59:22Z")

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> [@medstar](#):
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> Uh, I don’t think that Starbuck is “buddies” with Adama.

I think it’s pretty well established that she is a longtime friend of the Adama family.

> [@Orbifold](#):
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> > [@HPL](#):
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> > Does anyone know what song was playing during the celebration? Is that a real one or specillay made from the show?(I suspect the former, considering it sounds very Irish).
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> Actually, I suspect the latter. When we first heard the song my wife and I both thought of “Spirit of the West”, a Canadian pop/folk/whatever band out of Vancouver. My wife did some Googling to try and confirm it, and found this, which doesn’t confirm anything but does suggest a connection between the show and the band. Spirit of the West writes songs with more than a little Scottish influence, and that victory song is definitely their style.
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> I can’t help you with the title, though; sorry.

The first thing I thought of was the song ‘Mistrel Boy’ in the closing credits of Black Hawk Down.

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**Author:** ![jeffh3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@jeffh3000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeffh3000)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/125 "2005-03-17T05:30:41Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> So who “made” the human like Cylons?

The cylon god is the easy answer, of course we don’t know who/what that is. I have to admitt that the apparent submission of toasters to human form cylons does have me puzzled, but that seems to be how they are writing it for now. We keep seeing toasters being ordered around by the human cylons and their distain of the toasters. You also never see toasters and humans in conversations (other than orders), they only converse with other human form cylons.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/126 "2005-03-17T08:08:21Z")

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I know this is probably a stupid question, but in what episode did Helo run across(and presumably kill) #6? I don’t remember either event occuring.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/127 "2005-03-17T10:37:05Z")

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I believe it was in episode 2. Helo is captured by some Cylons including some “toasters” and a Number Six model. I don’t remember the specifics, but when Boomer first shows up to rescue him she shoots and kills the Number Six. Helo doesn’t know about the human-form Cylons and that there are multiple copies of them, so he is surprised in the latest episode when he sees the woman that Boomer killed.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/128 "2005-03-17T11:18:30Z")

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> [@The Tooth](#):
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> Sorry. I thought it was a pretty tame spoiler, to be honest.

You did appropriately give a warning for your initial spoiler, but now that you’re calling it tame, I think people might be tempted to go back and take a look at it.

I think they should know that **The Tooth’s spoiler is most definitely NOT tame.** It’s a spoiler on a pretty significant plot-point that isn’t revealed until the second part of the two part finale. In fact, it’s directly related to a cliffhanger. I wouldn’t say it’s a HUGE spoiler that ruins everything, but I really wouldn’t call it tame.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/129 "2005-03-17T12:51:07Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> The Tooth’s spoiler is most definitely NOT tame.

Seems pretty tame to me.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/130 "2005-03-18T01:23:27Z")

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Now that Richard Hatch has guest-starred, are there any other plans to acknowledge the first Battlestar Galactica? I think it would be a blast to re-do the episode where in order to get some desperately needed part, Commander Adama has to charm some rich, eccentric woman. Does anyone know if Commander Adama gets a love interest any time soon?

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/131 "2005-03-19T02:20:33Z")

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> [@medstar](#):
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> Now that Richard Hatch has guest-starred, are there any other plans to acknowledge the first Battlestar Galactica? I think it would be a blast to re-do the episode where in order to get some desperately needed part, Commander Adama has to charm some rich, eccentric woman. Does anyone know if Commander Adama gets a love interest any time soon?

Forget it! This Adama would go there with a squad of armed soldiers and say “Hand it over. NOW.”

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/132 "2005-03-19T03:58:35Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> There was a plot device that the replicators required some specific power source that failed and restricted their use. Hence [shudder] Nelix the cook.[/shudder]

Just to continue the hijack…

It wasn’t that the replicator’s didn’t work. They decided not to use them very often because it used energy. Everyone had “replicator rations” they could use. You would often hear, “It cost me (amount of time) worth of replicator rations, but it was worth it”

And to keep the whole BG, ST thing going. Today I was watching a rerun of DS0 and my wife said something like “I don’t know what’s going on. I don’t watch Star Trek.” Then she started laughing. When I looked puzzled she said, “Isn’t this Battlestar Galactica?”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/133 "2005-03-19T04:14:27Z")

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> [@Odinoneeye](#):
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> Just to continue the hijack…
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> It wasn’t that the replicator’s didn’t work. They decided not to use them very often because it used energy.

That’s what I said, guy. The power source for the replicators failed and they had to limit replicator use.

^:dubious:^

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/134 "2005-03-19T04:30:25Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> That’s what I said, guy. The power source for the replicators failed and they had to limit replicator use.
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> ^:dubious:^

Ah. Guess I inserted the word “failed” before the word “replicators”

Sorry for my inaccurate reading.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-1-9-hand-of-god-now-with-lemon-fresh-spoilers/294097/135 "2005-03-19T04:38:11Z")

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> [@toadspittle](#):
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> One thing I wondered:
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> Where did they get all the bottles of late-harvest riesling for their celebration?

Looked like urine recyc to me.

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