# Battlestar Galactica 2.11 — "Resurrection Ship Part 1" (draidus contact! spoilers!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 5, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616 "2006-01-05T19:30:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/81 "2006-01-08T01:08:15Z")
> [@AerynSun](#): > > Oooh, thanks for all the info. De nada. Random thought: Presuming Cain is disposed of in some manner, will her field promotion of Starbuck to Captain stick? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/82 "2006-01-08T01:41:40Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Presuming Cain is disposed of in some manner, will her field promotion of Starbuck to Captain stick? Only if she does the disposing and grows a beard. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/83 "2006-01-08T02:02:38Z")
I only noticed that Sebastian Spence is flying a viper belonging to someone named “Foster”. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/84 "2006-01-08T02:06:28Z")
> [@medstar](#): > > I was wondering about the Pegasus Number 6. Baltar brought her a military uniform and Admiral Cain castigated her about sitting at the mess table, listening to their stories and insinuating herself into their midst. What was her job aboard the Pegasus? How was she found out? Was it a lucky coincidence or was there a sure way of detecting Cylons? Pegasus Six said she was aware of what she was, it was war, she had a job to do, etc. It would be nice to know more about her. She could easily have been a civilian on one of the ships Cain plundered for parts & personnel. Her original indoctrination led her to believe that once humans learned about her, they’d kill her and she’d be reborn. Unfortunately things didn’t work out that way. I’m thinking like Leoben, she did her sabotage or whatever it was she was programmed to do, then just came out, thinking “now they’ll kill me.” The Six model, like the Leoben model, seems prone to gloating and bragging anyway. “Ha, ha, ha! Stupid humans. You’re weak and pathetic and you’re all going to die! Now kill me and be done with it! Hey, what are you doing? What do you mean you’re not going to kill me? What’s this about rape & torture?!?” ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/85 "2006-01-08T02:53:20Z")
You know. I seem to remember a time not so long ago when a certain Battlestar commander wanted to leave all the civilians behind so he could go fight the Cylons. And I also seem to remember a time when the same commander came very close to overthrowing the civilian government. I don’t see Starbuck killing Cain. I see both assassination attempts fail and some sort of understanding being met. Then Cain and the Pegusus disappear forever in some ambiguous way. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/86 "2006-01-08T02:58:21Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I don’t see Starbuck killing Cain. I think Starbuck’s attack will be foiled and the aircraft engineer will kill Cain in revenge for his family. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/87 "2006-01-08T03:03:25Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I think Starbuck’s attack will be foiled and the aircraft engineer will kill Cain in revenge for his family. There do seem to be lots of people who could off Cain and I’d be totally okay with it. Heck, Cally could off her & I’d be tempted to charge her with unlawful discharge of a firearm and rescind her dessert privileges in the mess hall for a week. ---
**Author:** ![MaddyStrut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@MaddyStrut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaddyStrut)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/88 "2006-01-08T03:28:06Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > You know. I seem to remember a time not so long ago when a certain Battlestar commander wanted to leave all the civilians behind so he could go fight the Cylons. And I also seem to remember a time when the same commander came very close to overthrowing the civilian government. Yeah, he was totally uninterested in the civilians in the beginning. However, leaving them behind is vastly different from stripping their FTL drives (and whatever other valuable parts), impressing crewmembers, and shooting their families. I found it interesting that despite the cylon assertion that humans are the evil ones, the Pegasus six was willing to have the resurrection ship destroyed to end her suffering. Sure, what she’s been through was horrific, but if the ship is destroyed, any other cylon models killed out there will die as well. I was also wondering if Starbuck’s promotion would stand if Cain is killed. I think it would. Certainly it would stand if Cain died through any means other than mutiny. Also, unless the Pegasus is destroyed, they’re going to need their own CAG. Come to think of it, who would have command of the Pegasus after Cain? Would it be the current XO? Tigh? Whoever is holding that gun on Cain in the previews has a pretty shakey hand. For that reason, I think it would have to be someone unused to killing, overwhelmed by emotion, or torn about their decision. (Or maybe it’s Ellen Tigh with a really bad hangover.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/89 "2006-01-08T04:23:16Z")
I was sort of thinking that during the attack on the Cylon fleet, Pegasus gets crippled or even destroyed. Sometime before this happens, Lee and Starbuck manage to get Chief and Helo back to Galactica by means of escape. This puts the show back to having just one battlestar, solves the leadership problems and keeps Chief and Helo in the show. As the Pegasus explodes, the marine crew on Galactica realize that their mission is null and void and become merry members of the Galactica crew. Right before exploding, Cain sends out a message to the fleet telling her people to follow Adama or something similar. This gives the Galactica a number of new fighters on board from the survivors of the battle. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/90 "2006-01-08T04:52:49Z")
> [@The Long Road](#): > > This gives the Galactica a number of new fighters on board from the survivors of the battle. Galactica _really_ needs an injection of new Vipers & pilots. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/91 "2006-01-08T06:36:19Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > BTW: Starbuck has always been butch but in this episode her face looks downright mannish. Am I imagining it or has she really changed in appearance that much? Katee Sackhoff was one of the cast members interviewed on the Sci-Fi channel’s little documentary, and she seemed noticeably more attractive to me than when she’s playing Starbuck. Something about her hair, I think. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/92 "2006-01-08T09:50:40Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > By your command. If I click on you enough times, will you begin to say things like, “Are you still touching me?!” or, “Don’t you have a kingdom to run?” One thing I wonder about is, how has the Pegasus survived with their newer equipment? It’s been long established that Cylons can hack modern computers more easily, including the onboard systems on the newer Vipers. There was a scene from the pilot or one of the early episodes where the newer Vipers just started tumbling randomly through space. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/93 "2006-01-08T14:41:11Z")
> [@sturmhauke](#): > > Cylons can hack modern computers more easily, including the onboard systems on the newer Vipers. . They can get into networks. Galactica’s systems aren’t networked. Someone on Pegasus figured out you have to yank the WAP out of the vipers. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/94 "2006-01-08T22:52:12Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > They can get into networks. Galactica’s systems aren’t networked. > Someone on Pegasus figured out you have to yank the WAP out of the vipers. 🙂 Or, that could be with Six Mark Two got caught. She tried to prevent them from yanking the WAPs… -Joe ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/95 "2006-01-08T23:05:16Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > She tried to prevent them from yanking the WAPs. She would certainly inspire that sort of thing in the 13-25 male viewer group. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2006, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/96 "2006-01-09T03:05:45Z")
Strangely enough, i had a BSG related dream last night (unfortunately not a _good_ one, if you knowhatimean, nudge, nudge…) i was watching an ep, where Starbuck was off on a covert ops mission, and somehow ended up captured on the Ressurection Ship… …she wakes up next to a Cylon copy of herself in one of the alcove thingies, she then notices hoses and tubes attached to her body (cloning hardware, obviously), as she emits a primal scream, the camera pans back to show her in an alcove, and her entire row filled with Starbuck clones…fade to black… so in this dream ep, now there are 13 models… i was reading a BSG thread on one of my other forums, where someone brought up a good point about the difference between the mechanical Toasters and the Meatbag toasters strategies for dealing with Humanity, and why the meatbags seem to be more “human tolerant” than the mechanicals the meatbags sole purpose is to infiltrate humanity and destroy/corrupt from within, however they also have a sense of self-preservation and “soul” the mechanicals sole purpose (to quote Bender) is to “kill all humans, kill alll humans, must kill all…” so, logically, if the mechanicals can eliminate humanity, they won’t _need_ the meatbags anymore, and the meatbags will probably be next on the “de-rezz” list, so it’s in the meatbags self-interest to keep the humans alive, to protect their own existence… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2006, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/97 "2006-01-09T03:33:38Z")
I’m thinking that the “they have a plan” means they are driving the humans much like cattle to find Earth, the last remaining planet of humans. Never getting too close or too far away, just being there to push the humans on when they linger too long. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/98 "2006-01-09T03:37:37Z")
> [@The Long Road](#): > > I’m thinking that the “they have a plan” means they are driving the humans much like cattle to find Earth, the last remaining planet of humans. Never getting too close or too far away, just being there to push the humans on when they linger too long. That’s what many of us assumed, but then Moore threw in this thing about humanoid Cylons believing in a single god, not being able to reproduce, but wanting to. Cylons need humans and it turns out not just as breeding factories. Love is the missing ingredient, so now the Cylons are in a bit of a pickle. ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/99 "2006-01-09T16:25:31Z")
“…and shoot her in the head.” What a great line, great acting, great show. I cannot WAIT for next Friday! ---
**Author:** ![mrklutz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@mrklutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrklutz)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2006, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616/100 "2006-01-09T19:25:47Z")
> [@The Long Road](#): > > I was sort of thinking that during the attack on the Cylon fleet, Pegasus gets crippled or even destroyed. Sometime before this happens, Lee and Starbuck manage to get Chief and Helo back to Galactica by means of escape. This puts the show back to having just one battlestar, solves the leadership problems and keeps Chief and Helo in the show. As the Pegasus explodes, the marine crew on Galactica realize that their mission is null and void and become merry members of the Galactica crew. Right before exploding, Cain sends out a message to the fleet telling her people to follow Adama or something similar. This gives the Galactica a number of new fighters on board from the survivors of the battle. This is largely the option I’m betting on. The battlestars are planning to go toe-to-toe with the basestars (IIRC) while the fighters go after the resurrection ship. That leaves plenty of opportunity for the cylons to blow the Pegasus into little bitty pieces. With no Cain and no Pegasus, the survivors reinforce Galactica’s dwindling crew and fighter complement – no message from Cain would be needed for that. Any military survivors are going to follow the ranking surviving officer. That still leaves the problem of how to bust the Chief and Helo out of the brig (not to mention Baltar and Pegasus #6), but I’m sure they can come up with something believable. Maybe Baltar decides help Peg6 escape during the chaos of the fight and brings them along – he needs someone who can fly a shuttle, after all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-11-resurrection-ship-part-1-draidus-contact-spoilers/338616.md?page=6)