# Battlestar Galactica 2.12 — "Resurrection Ship Part 2" (spoilerama) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 13, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-12-resurrection-ship-part-2-spoilerama/339870 "2006-01-13T20:20:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-12-resurrection-ship-part-2-spoilerama/339870/121 "2006-01-19T20:37:45Z")
> [@Corner Case](#): > > I still don’t understand how Gina can go from wanting to die and sticking a gun (in Baltar’s hands) to her own head to killing her persecutor and fleeing. Before, she just wanted to hit the Reset button, get out of the rape/torture cell, and start over with a new body. It wasn’t a desire for death, as we know it, just a desire for physical escape. When that option became unavailable, she took a little time to adjust, and _then_ realized she needed to keep that body alive. Somehow Baltar offered her a way to do that, whether that involves his chip or not. Along the way, she had the opportunity to exact a little revenge and retrieve some dignity. > [@](#): > > _We never saw Cain shot or in the coffin. She might not be dead. Maybe they’re making her better … stronger … faster._ They apparently shot the photon-torpedo housing into space, not directly into a star. Maybe the Cylons retrieved it for “study”? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-12-resurrection-ship-part-2-spoilerama/339870/122 "2006-01-19T20:52:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Before, she just wanted to hit the Reset button, get out of the rape/torture cell, and start over with a new body. It wasn’t a desire for death, as we know it, just a desire for physical escape. When that option became unavailable, she took a little time to adjust, and _then_ realized she needed to keep that body alive. Somehow Baltar offered her a way to do that, whether that involves his chip or not. Along the way, she had the opportunity to exact a little revenge and retrieve some dignity. I disagree. She wanted to hit the reset button when she thought all they’d do is kill her. After the rape & torture, she decided she didn’t want to wake up in a new body. That’s why she offered up the intelligence about the resurrection ship. She wanted it destroyed so she couldn’t wake up and have to live with the memories of the atrocities inflicted on her. ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-12-resurrection-ship-part-2-spoilerama/339870/123 "2006-01-19T21:09:28Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I disagree. She wanted to hit the reset button when she thought all they’d do is kill her. After the rape & torture, she decided she didn’t want to wake up in a new body. That’s why she offered up the intelligence about the resurrection ship. She wanted it destroyed so she couldn’t wake up and have to live with the memories of the atrocities inflicted on her. That’s what I don’t understand. Before the Resurrection Ship is destroyed: Gina has her memories of torture and 1) expects to live and continue to be tortured or 2) expects to die and wake up in a new/healed body and with memories of being tortured. She says to destroy the Resurrection Ship and kill her. After the Ressurrection Ship is destroyed: Gina has her memories of torture and 1) expects to live and continue to be tortured or 2) expects to die and **not** wake up in a new/healed body and with memories of being tortured, but to be in oblivion or heaven. In any form, if she lives, she has her memories of torture. So I don’t see how her motivation to _not_ die has changed. Escape to the Resurrection Ship is equivalent to physical escape from the cell. Both stop torture and neither erases memory of torture. What am I missing? ---
**Author:** ![MMI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@MMI](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MMI)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-12-resurrection-ship-part-2-spoilerama/339870/124 "2006-01-19T21:13:52Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > According to a site giving the history of the first Cylon war, the humans started resorting to using nukes that could generate either EMP or fallout of a type that could damage Cylon circuitry. The Cylons sued for peace rather than let the humans render the entire twelve colonies unihabitable by either side. Hmm. Skimmed over that site. For some reason I had thought that the articles of colonization were a response to the cylon war, and that the first cylon soldiers were used in conflicts between the various colonies. Any ideas, folks? (ISTR in the miniseries that Apollo was dubious as to the efficacy of EMP’s versus cylons - it never worked in exercises) ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-12-resurrection-ship-part-2-spoilerama/339870/125 "2006-01-19T21:16:25Z")
> [@Corner Case](#): > > That’s what I don’t understand. > > Before the Resurrection Ship is destroyed: Gina has her memories of torture and 1) expects to live and continue to be tortured or 2) expects to die and wake up in a new/healed body and with memories of being tortured. > > She says to destroy the Resurrection Ship and kill her. > > After the Ressurrection Ship is destroyed: Gina has her memories of torture and 1) expects to live and continue to be tortured or 2) expects to die and **not** wake up in a new/healed body and with memories of being tortured, but to be in oblivion or heaven. > > In any form, if she lives, she has her memories of torture. So I don’t see how her motivation to _not_ die has changed. Escape to the Resurrection Ship is equivalent to physical escape from the cell. Both stop torture and neither erases memory of torture. > > What am I missing? It’s just my wild-ass opinion, but I think what you’re missing is Gina, at the last moment there, found love. With love comes healing, and hope. She gave up the resurrection ship before she found love. After she found love, she got a little justice by offing Cain, now it’s onto the healing part. She can live with the awful memories now, because she’s got Baltar and love. ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-12-resurrection-ship-part-2-spoilerama/339870/126 "2006-01-19T21:22:13Z")
That makes sense. My points were always made with her being _alone_. Now that she feels she isn’t, life has more meaning. Ironically, maybe the Cylons will find that being connected/networked-together is what they’ve been missing. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-12-resurrection-ship-part-2-spoilerama/339870/127 "2006-01-19T21:57:10Z")
> [@Corner Case](#): > > That makes sense. My points were always made with her being _alone_. Now that she feels she isn’t, life has more meaning. > > Ironically, maybe the Cylons will find that being connected/networked-together is what they’ve been missing. Which rachets up the irony-meter a whole bunch. The thing that made the humans vulnerable (networked units) is what the Cylons are lacking to make Life have Meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-12-resurrection-ship-part-2-spoilerama/339870/128 "2006-01-20T02:37:28Z")
> [@](#): > > Hmm. Skimmed over that site. For some reason I had thought that the articles of colonization were a response to the cylon war, and that the first cylon soldiers were used in conflicts between the various colonies. Any ideas, folks? From the looks of it, the author of this site has paid close attention to the details thrown into the series about Colonial history, and used inference and conjecture to fill in the rest, so while it couldn’t be considered canonical it’s probably faithful to Moore’v vision. Anyway, “Colonial Day” told us that the Articles of Colonization were ratified 52 years before the present day, and the Cylon War ended 40 years before the present day. We don’t know when the war started so the AoC may or may not have come about as a result of the war. As for Cylons having been used in the Colonies’ wars against one another, Moore has said as such in his blog but I don’t think it’s come up in the series yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-12-resurrection-ship-part-2-spoilerama/339870.md?page=6)