# Battlestar Galactica 2.19 - Spoilers Armed **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2006, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944 "2006-03-03T19:40:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/81 "2006-03-06T21:29:20Z")
Hmmmm… **Scupper** , Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/82 "2006-03-06T21:34:38Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > pwease pwotect me…" “…or I’ll blow your spine out your back with a military sidearm.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/83 "2006-03-06T21:37:56Z")
> [@Scupper](#): > > Cally “lost her nerve” in “Fragged” just at the right moment for Baltar to have to kill Crashdown, something which HeadSix seemed very proud of him for doing. Were she a Cylon, that would have been a good time for “Gort, Klatu birada nicto.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/84 "2006-03-07T13:33:26Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > “…or I’ll blow your spine out your back with a military sidearm.” 🙂 You have your sexual fantasies, I’ll have mine. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/85 "2006-03-07T17:35:47Z")
[ol] [li]Since the transponder was still active, the FTL jump either compressed the rock out of the way (unlikely) or displaced it back to the point of origin - a swap (better). So I vote for a swap. It is too difficult to use as a kamikaze method because the aim is not that precise.[/li][li]After hearing the discussion, I agree that jumping to a habitable hidden planet seems too good to be true. I suspect that Homo-Cylonus are testing the humans. They attack, they infiltrate to listen in, they let a basestar be blown up, they are experimenting with “love”, and maybe next episode they see what humans do when offer a “peace treaty”. It all seems like the trials of Job somehow.[/li][li]If Roslyn is going to play the “Baltar was seen conspiring with a Cylon”-card, then, I’ve been surprised since Roslyn’s cancer was cured that Baltar hasn’t played the “Roslyn was saved with Cylon-Blood”-card and so she’s possessed![/li][li]I felt Dean Stockwell (love him!) was a Cylon, but that’s too obvious. As too “he can’t be a Cylon” because he’s old - nonsense. Old people can be quite fit, and as a Cylon he can be made looking old but with the insides of a fit 20-something. However, everyone can’t be a Cylon … [sub]or can they? … [/sub]. But, try this one on for size … … what if Dean Stockwell is just a mental hallucination of Tyrol’s. … No I don’t think they’d do it, but it’s a cute thought.[/li][li]After hearing the discussion, it is curious why Tyrol was lying on the deck. I’d assumed he was working to hard, fell asleep and had his dream. He could have had a Melba-moment and done some sabotage, but I really think he’s just a good human with human problems and worries.[/li][li]Dee’s and Lee’s romance seems contrived. (probably due to Billy’s leaving and someone’s weird sense of humor since their names rhyme)[/li][li]Adama can’t let people settle the planet beacuse the fleet would be losing too many craftsmen and people whose skills are vital to maintain the ships. This unpopular decision will spark a lot of tumoil and “dark times”.[/li][li][sub]Go on, admit it, you missed my lists.[/sub] :D[/li][/ol] ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/86 "2006-03-07T17:56:39Z")
> [@Corner Case](#): > > you missed my lists. Lists? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/87 "2006-03-07T19:00:15Z")
Well **Corner Case** , I _was_ feeling a bit listless … ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/88 "2006-03-07T21:58:08Z")
> [@Ponder Stibbons](#): > > Well **Corner Case** , I _was_ feeling a bit listless … Me too. And that causes me to ponder a question that’s been bothering me lately: Why, when I see the name **Ponder Stibbons** do I think of Pork Chops? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/89 "2006-03-07T22:08:09Z")
Oh, and the award for Best Dressed goes to Kara Thrace, who is the only person to not wear a helmet as all the little ships made their jumps. It would have ruined her hairdo and made her just win Miss Personality. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/90 "2006-03-07T22:24:00Z")
> [@Corner Case](#): > > Oh, and the award for Best Dressed goes to Kara Thrace, who is the only person to not wear a helmet as all the little ships made their jumps. It would have ruined her hairdo and made her just win Miss Personality. 😉 Boomer didn’t wear a helmut, did she? 😛 At least I noticed she wasn’t wearing a helmut on Caprica. You know, you’d think they’d protect her more carefully. If she got killed on Caprica, she’d get resurrected on Caprica and at this point in the story, I don’t think they want knowledge of everything that has happened back in the fleet getting back to the Cylons. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/91 "2006-03-08T01:24:23Z")
> [@Phantom Dennis](#): > > So what happened to the Rapter that jumped inside the mountain? I watched the ep again, and it sounded to me like they flew into a mountain, not jumped into it. Anybody got a TV with excellent sound to clarify? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/92 "2006-03-08T01:49:25Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > I watched the ep again, and it sounded to me like they flew into a mountain, not jumped into it. Anybody got a TV with excellent sound to clarify? Helo says, “They jumped inside the mountain.” ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/93 "2006-03-08T03:30:20Z")
“They’ll be jumping inside the mountain when they come…” Ahem. Back to thread. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/94 "2006-03-08T05:22:22Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Helo says, “They jumped inside the mountain.” Damn. That speaks poorly of Starbuck’s mission plan. ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/95 "2006-03-08T06:21:57Z")
No, it speaks volumes of the envelope they’re pushing with the use of the Cyclon jump tech in fine-tuning their jumps. Bear in mind that they usually don’t jump into atmospheres like that. It seems to fall more on Baby Boomer than on Starbuck: the details of the jumping are on Baby Boomer. In my opinion, they’re doing well to have lost only the one Raptor in the Caprica! Endoatmospheric! Jumpy! Fun! Time! ---
**Author:** ![Doom\_Slinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Doom\_Slinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doom_Slinger)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/96 "2006-03-08T13:57:00Z")
> [@Corner Case](#): > > After hearing the discussion, it is curious why Tyrol was lying on the deck. I’d assumed he was working to hard, fell asleep and had his dream. He could have had a Melba-moment and done some sabotage, but I really think he’s just a good human with human problems and worries. Wasn’t Tyrol wearing just a t-shirt (okay, the fleet standard issue t-shirt/tank top combo) and boxer briefs as he was dozing on deck? What kind of work would he have been doing in his underwear? ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/97 "2006-03-08T14:09:20Z")
> [@cerberus](#): > > No, it speaks volumes of the envelope they’re pushing with the use of the Cyclon jump tech in fine-tuning their jumps. Bear in mind that they usually don’t jump into atmospheres like that. It seems to fall more on Baby Boomer than on Starbuck: the details of the jumping are on Baby Boomer. > > In my opinion, they’re doing well to have lost only the one Raptor in the Caprica! Endoatmospheric! Jumpy! Fun! Time! Exactly. This isn’t Star Trek where everything works perfectly and magically (except when something goes wrong and someone has to rewrite a subroutine to make something magical even more magical). They jumped 2km above the surface of the planet. Someone was unlucky in that when there was a spinning planet involved in the mix their destination happened to be in a spot where a mountain was over 2km tall. Really, the displacement makes the most sense…however they do it. After all, if you do a jump and your brain happens to co-locate with a grain of space-sand…that can’t be fun. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/98 "2006-03-08T14:27:42Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Me too. > > And that causes me to ponder a question that’s been bothering me lately: Why, when I see the name **Ponder Stibbons** do I think of Pork Chops? > > -Joe Hmm. I did post something nice about Emeril a while back, and, as we all know, one of his catchphrases is “pork fat rules” and it’s not too far a jump to go from that to pork chops … Or maybe you’re just nuts. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/99 "2006-03-08T15:02:09Z")
> [@Ponder Stibbons](#): > > Hmm. I did post something nice about Emeril a while back, and, as we all know, one of his catchphrases is “pork fat rules” and it’s not too far a jump to go from that to pork chops … > > Or maybe you’re just nuts. 😛 Most likely, since I’ve never watched Emeril. Maybe Ponder Stibbons: Jek Porkins: Pork Chops: Pork Chop Express: Jack Burton: Tim Burton You’re Tim Burton, aren’t you?!?!!? -Joe, probably nuts ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944/100 "2006-03-08T15:14:34Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Exactly. This isn’t Star Trek where everything works perfectly and magically Like in _Enterprise_ when the guy transported with plant material in his body? 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-19-spoilers-armed/346944.md?page=6)