# Battlestar Galactica 2.4 — "Resistance" (open spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 5, 2005, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747 "2005-08-05T17:53:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![HelloKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecccb3/32.png) [@HelloKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelloKitty)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/101 "2005-08-10T17:41:58Z")

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> [@Sean Factotum](#):
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> Sorry **Kitty**. I thought about that after I hit the submit button. The only thing I have to say for myself is that these threads are marked “open Spoilers”, and that information is available to the public. But I understand where you’re coming from.

That’s OK…I know there’s always the risk of stumbling upon a spoiler or two in this thread. I try to look away but sometimes it’s too late!!!

🆒

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2005, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/102 "2005-08-10T19:49:00Z")

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So what do you all think about Helo & the Starbuccaneers?

Are these guys all red shirts?

Will Caprica Boomer come back with a heavy Raider, rescue them all and bring them back to Galactica? Would that make Starbuck the best new recruit finder in the fleet?

Will Starbuck develop a love interest with Sam, the pyramid guy? Will he then have to die, or might they let him make it back to Galactica, so he can bump heads with Apollo over Starbuck?

Come to think of it, Sam looks a bit like a cross between Zack & Lee Adama. Maybe Cmdr. Adama will adopt him like the son he _should_ have had. That’d sure t-off Apollo.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/103 "2005-08-10T20:12:43Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Will Caprica Boomer come back with a heavy Raider, rescue them all and bring them back to Galactica? Would that make Starbuck the best new recruit finder in the fleet?

Yes, and yes.

> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Will Starbuck develop a love interest with Sam, the pyramid guy? Will he then have to die, or might they let him make it back to Galactica, so he can bump heads with Apollo over Starbuck?

Yes. He has to wear a red shirt. I don’t know how long it will last.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/104 "2005-08-10T20:14:21Z")

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Does Starbuck make the best cup of coffee in the fleet? 😛

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2005, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/105 "2005-08-10T20:26:09Z")

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How long are they going to keep up this indecisive Apollo stuff? It would be just as annoying and assinine to wonder “who is the Cylon this week?” and “who’s side is Apollo on?”

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2005, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/106 "2005-08-10T20:29:01Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Does Starbuck make the best cup of coffee in the fleet? 😛

No, just the most expensive.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2005, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/107 "2005-08-10T20:29:26Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> So what do you all think about Helo & the Starbuccaneers?

They have a few nice songs, but for the most part their music is rather forgettable. Mark my words, a few years from now they’ll be on some sort of VH-1 “Where are they now?” rockumentary.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/108 "2005-08-10T20:50:07Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> “Where are they now?”

“And why is there a nine-hour radio delay between transmission and receipt?”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/109 "2005-08-10T21:00:13Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> “And why is there a nine-hour radio delay between transmission and receipt?”

::Taps WOM on table. Shakes it and listens.::  
Whoos-O-Meter

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2005, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/110 "2005-08-10T22:24:42Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> How long are they going to keep up this indecisive Apollo stuff? It would be just as annoying and assinine to wonder “who is the Cylon this week?” and “who’s side is Apollo on?”

I think Apollo can be relied upon to always do what would piss off his dad the most. And always caveat it with “this isn’t about you, dad.”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/111 "2005-08-11T15:47:43Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> How long are they going to keep up this indecisive Apollo stuff?

Looks like they resolved it this time, at least for the time being. Apollo clearly and irrevocably decided his commitment to democracy outweighed both his military oath and his filial devotion. I can’t see any way for him to go back now, at least until martial law is lifted and Roslin is reinstated.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/112 "2005-08-11T19:14:41Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Apollo clearly and irrevocably decided his commitment to democracy outweighed both his military oath and his filial devotion.

I don’t know that he decided anything outweighed his military oath. Wouldn’t his military oath include something about “protecting the Articles of Colonization from all enemies, foreign and domestic”? (Or “toaster and human”, as the case may be.)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/113 "2005-08-11T19:40:46Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> I don’t know that he decided anything outweighed his military oath.

What happens when martial law is declared? Say if Nixon had decided to launch a nuclear strike because he was going to be impeached? I think that in the IDF a soldier is expected to consider the legality of his orders, but I don’t know how that sort of thing works.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/114 "2005-08-11T20:07:36Z")

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I don’t think even this board of all boards has any members expert in the legal system of the 12 Colonies of Kobol, or its fleet’s Uniform Code of Military Justice, unfortunately.

> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> “toaster and human”

No racist remarks, please, even from moderators.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/115 "2005-08-11T21:02:28Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> No racist remarks, please, even from moderators.

Only a toaster would consider that racist.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2005, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/116 "2005-08-11T22:01:15Z")

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> [@HPL](#):
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> Only a toaster would consider that racist.

Maybe we should do a poll of household appliances to make a determination one way or the other.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/117 "2005-08-11T23:58:08Z")

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The Cylons say they hate being called toasters; but they’re just programmed to say that.

Was the infamous “Talky Toaster” of Red Dwarf fame a Cylon?

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-2-4-resistance-open-spoilers/315747/118 "2005-08-12T06:29:07Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> Maybe we should do a poll of household appliances to make a determination one way or the other.

The Toaster says yes but the oven, fridge and mircowave said no.

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