# Battlestar Galactica 3.06 Torn 11/3 (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 3, 2006, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011 "2006-11-03T19:20:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/141 "2006-11-07T02:11:52Z")
I’ve got…$4.13 to add to the kitty if we can get her kit off again before the end of the season. ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/142 "2006-11-07T02:18:15Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] Totally unrelated, but is anyone else having trouble getting access to the Battlestar Wiki? It seems to have simply vanished, which would be too bad if true. [/QUOTE] They had a notice up last week about a scheduled maintenance; a move to a new server I think. They said they planned to be back up by the weekend but apparently something is still fracked. Their blog was up for a while over the weekend but I was getting mySQL errors on the main pages. Now it just looks down. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/143 "2006-11-07T02:24:16Z")
[QUOTE=mrklutz] Personally, I would find it more believable for the virus to be an accident than for it to be a trap set by humans for the cylons long before the cylons ever existed. Strange, accidental occurrences to happen in real life. Foreknowledge doesn’t. Even in the Galactica universe, where prophecy does work, I have a hard time believing it would work well enough for someone to design a virus against an as-yet nonexistent enemy. [/QUOTE] Maybe it’s a primitive computer virus that turns on their Automatic Update? 😉 -Joe ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/144 "2006-11-07T02:27:48Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] I’ve got…$4.13 to add to the kitty if we can get her kit off again before the end of the season. [/QUOTE] Kit, kit, kit what is kit? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/145 "2006-11-07T02:42:34Z")
British-ism for “removing her clothing for our edification.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/146 "2006-11-07T02:52:33Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Kit, kit, kit what is kit? [/QUOTE] [Here](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Levdrakon/kitt.gif) \*. \*Warning. Clothing-free link. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/147 "2006-11-07T02:53:07Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] British-ism for “removing her clothing for our edification.” 😃 [/QUOTE] Okay, what the hell, I’m in for a dollar two ninety eight. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/148 "2006-11-07T02:58:22Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] [Here](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Levdrakon/kitt.gif) \*. \*Warning. Clothing-free link. [/QUOTE] Dude. That is just _mean._ ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/149 "2006-11-07T03:01:43Z")
Okay, this time I’m not kidding. [Naked Cylon pussy.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Levdrakon/kitt_cat.gif) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/150 "2006-11-07T03:04:35Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] [Here](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Levdrakon/kitt.gif) \*. \*Warning. Clothing-free link. [/QUOTE] Somewhere, there is a Centurion with a chrome-on. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/151 "2006-11-07T03:07:13Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] Okay, this time I’m not kidding. [Naked Cylon pussy.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Levdrakon/kitt_cat.gif) [/QUOTE] Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, you’re some kind of goofy Trekoid. It’s a cat sitting on a toaster, right? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/152 "2006-11-07T03:09:04Z")
Some folks have a lot of time on their hands. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/153 "2006-11-07T03:31:34Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] Earth is also humanity’s last stand, so to speak, and as such seems to have been played up a bit in the imagination of all involved. The humans think finding Earth is their salvation. Now, if Earth is indeed our Earth, I think these guys are going to be sorely disappointed once they get here. They think they’re going to be reuinted with their long-lost brethren and a bright new day in their “new home” will dawn. Hah! They’ll be lucky if their presence doesn’t cause worldwide panic and a massive nuclear response directed straight at them. That’s for the future, though. Right now, in the Colonial mind, Earth must be a place worth finding, a kind of promised-land where humanity will regroup. Maybe the Cylons buy into that as well. They’ve got two reasons to want to find Earth, at least: If humanity recovers, the Cylons believe it is inevitable (a belief strongly reinforced by the New Caprica debacle) they will seek total revenge on the Cylon race . Also, Earth does sound awfully nice. Once you get rid of the pesky human infestation, it would make a sweet place to hang your hat. So it’s a win-win: Beat humanity to their last outpost, wipe them out once and for all, and settle in the Land of Milk and Honey. [/QUOTE] I can understand Colonials wanting to find Earth, but I have to question their judgement. What moral or ethical right do they have to lead the Cylons there? Cylons have tracked them the whole time. They only managed to hide from them for a year. Athena told Adama she won’t reveal any Cylons who may still be hiding within the fleet. So if they find Earth, he would have to assume there are infiltrators who would reveal its location to the Cylons. Are the Colonials counting on Earth being able to defend itself against the Cylons? Probably not the best way to make friends. “Hello fellow long-lost humans! We’ve brought a horrible, genocidal enemy with us who is going to try and wipe you out!” Of course if they couched it such that they were simply trying to _warn_ them, I guess that could work. I can understand why Cylons might want to find Earth if what they want is to wipe out the last human enclave which might one day come seeking revenge. But why do they want Earth to be their new home? Didn’t they recently come into possession of 12 slightly used, mildly irradiated planets? What’s wrong with the Cylon homeworld & the 12 colonies? Not good enough? Five models of Cylons have different plans for them? What makes Earth so attractive? I’m a little afraid of this Earth. Assuming it’s our Earth, humans must have had good reason to leave it for Kobol thousands of years ago. Also, why did 12 tribes head for the Colonies while one tribe went back to Earth? I’d be afraid there are some seriously ancient, dark technologies on Earth both humans and Cylons wouldn’t want to mess with. They’ve already encountered one single little probe which could seriously kick their asses. Are they sure they really want to find Earth? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/154 "2006-11-07T03:35:35Z")
When did they ever say that the colonies _originated_ on Earth? I thought Earth was the 13th colony of Kobol. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/155 "2006-11-07T03:46:10Z")
My peeve with the issue - the relatively-instant acceptance of Sharon, including giving her such a pretty, nice callsign. If these people who have had all their loved ones killed by Cylons, including the recent deaths on New Caprica, gave Sharon a name, it would be something like, “You Frakking Bitch Who Should Die a Horrible Death.” In my opinion. Okay, done now. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/156 "2006-11-07T03:48:49Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] “You Frakking Bitch Who Should Die a Horrible Death.” [/QUOTE] What do you think Athena _means_ in Geminid? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/157 "2006-11-07T03:50:55Z")
“The issue?” Can we make that “this episode,” please? Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/158 "2006-11-07T03:52:01Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] What do you think Athena _means_ in Geminid? [/QUOTE] Ah, that makes more sense. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/159 "2006-11-07T03:55:54Z")
It might be fun to see what happens if they start to pic up radio transmissions from Earth. I think somebody has already riffed on the idea of Aliens picking up a Hitler speech and getting the wrong idea about Earth. Pick something else, like say Orson Welles’ production of _The War of the Worlds_ and let confusion ensue… ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011/160 "2006-11-07T03:58:03Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] When did they ever say that the colonies _originated_ on Earth? I thought Earth was the 13th colony of Kobol. [/QUOTE] They’ve never said that, but the audience gets _some_ credit for outside knowledge doesn’t it? Even if Earth is merely the 13th Colony, what business do the Colonials have leading the Cylons there? Earth has never fought a Cylon war and there’s no reason to believe they have a modern fleet of virus-proof Battlestars sitting in orbit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-06-torn-11-3-spoilers/379011.md?page=9)