# Battlestar Galactica 3.1 & 3.2 — "Occupation" & "Precipice"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 6, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500 "2006-10-06T14:28:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/221 "2006-10-10T03:37:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
I feel compelled to observe that this Galactica thread is, as I write this, 218 posts long, whereas the Lost thread, with two additional days since its premiere aired, is just 214 posts long. Yay! We’re winning! 😛  
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Network TV is squaresville, Daddy-O. All the Hot Chicks and Cool Cats are grooving on the SciFi vibe…

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/222 "2006-10-10T03:40:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
I feel compelled to observe that this Galactica thread is, as I write this, 218 posts long, whereas the Lost thread, with two additional days since its premiere aired, is just 214 posts long. Yay! We’re winning! 😛  
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Lost started? I didn’t even know. Honest. It’s probably on the DVR though.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/223 "2006-10-10T04:02:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
I feel compelled to observe that this Galactica thread is, as I write this, 218 posts long, whereas the Lost thread, with two additional days since its premiere aired, is just 214 posts long. Yay! We’re winning! 😛  
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The _Lost_ premiere was a one-hour yawn IMHO, even though I love the show, whereas _BSG_ was 2 hours of tv excellence.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/224 "2006-10-10T16:07:16Z")

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That’s true. This week will be the test, when both eps are one hour.

We’ll see if an hour of Jack yanking somebody’s chain is more stimulating than an hour of plotting to rescue the survivors of humanity from underneath a shiny chrome jackboot.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/225 "2006-10-10T16:35:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
We’ll see if an hour of Jack yanking somebody’s chain  
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This is a “Lost” reference?  
Obviously I don’t watch that one.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/226 "2006-10-10T18:54:23Z")

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On further consideration, I have concluded that Jammer is not a Cylon. Oddly, I don’t think I even mentioned speculating about him , but I was. However, if he was a cylon, why would he join the goodlife NCP? It would only expose him to more scrutiny by humans once the names of the goodlife are common knowledge, and I’d think a cylon would prefer to avoid unnecessary scrutiny to keep from blowing their cover as long as possible…

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/227 "2006-10-10T19:29:38Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
This is a “Lost” reference?  
Obviously I don’t watch that one.  
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Jack had some chains in his cell - I can’t remember if he was actually chained. He was yanking on them.

I assume it was another ‘clever’ poke at the fans. “See, we’re yanking your chains! Hahaha!”

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Subway\_Prophet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Subway\_Prophet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subway_Prophet)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/228 "2006-10-10T19:53:37Z")

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[QUOTE=alphaboi867]  
Adama didn’t swipe her kid. Roslin did. The only people who know Hera is still alive are Roslin, her assistant, and Cottle.  
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I don’t know why it took me so long to see this reply. Probably because of the… um… that is… um… nope, I can’t blame it on anything. Anyway.

I remember Roslin and the doc in cahoots over this, now. This was the “Downloaded” episode, right? I may get a chance to watch that one again. (Oddly enough, the ONE episode in the whole series with naked women writhing handcuffed in tubs of snot, and I’ve only watched it once. I’m not sure what this says about me.)

But in the mean time, can someone remind me: was Adama in on it? Did he even know?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/229 "2006-10-10T20:04:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
Jack had some chains in his cell  
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24 premieres in January, right?

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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/230 "2006-10-10T20:25:22Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
There were two of (Brother Cavil) on Galactica at one point. I don’t remember what happened to them.  
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It may not count, but in one of the DVD deleted scenes from Lay Down Your Burdens, Tryol says that both were thrown out an airlock.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/231 "2006-10-10T20:29:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Max the Immortal]  
It may not count, but in one of the DVD deleted scenes from Lay Down Your Burdens, Tryol says that both were thrown out an airlock.  
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Cool.  
Thanks.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/232 "2006-10-10T20:40:33Z")

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I remember one of them protesting until he saw the other of his model:  
“I’m not a Cylon, that’s the most ridiculous…oh.”

I can just see them going out the airlock, “Well, here’s another fine mess you’ve gotten us into!”

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/233 "2006-10-10T21:53:24Z")

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Jammer is not new! He was in the miniseries opening when Adama walked through the halls and the crew was bitching about the frakking window.

He was also the guy who Callie punched for building the cell they were going to put the Chief in.

– IG

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/234 "2006-10-10T23:44:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Max the Immortal]  
It may not count, but in one of the DVD deleted scenes from Lay Down Your Burdens, Tryol says that both were thrown out an airlock.  
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I thought in the actual show Roslin says something to the effect of “when we’re done here, space 'em,” causing the two Cavils to gaze with dark humor at one another.  
(Spinoff sitcom: The Two Cavils. Thirty minutes of snarky irreligious comedy featuring a pair of atheist priests. Starting in spring, Mondays at 9:30, on ABC Family.)

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/235 "2006-10-11T00:20:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
“when we’re done here, space 'em,” causing the two Cavils to gaze with dark humor at one another.

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Was the ressurection ship a gong concern at the time?  
Apparently it was indeed close enough for Leoban.

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/236 "2006-10-11T00:23:56Z")

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When are they going to learn that whenever an authority figure says “congratulations” to more than one person, the last one is going to get said leader hurt real good?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/237 "2006-10-11T00:31:05Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
Was the ressurection ship a gong concern at the time?  
Apparently it was indeed close enough for Leoban.  
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Hmm. They destroyed the resurrection ship shortly after the Pegasus showed up.

No, I think Starbuck went back & got Helo, Boomer & Anders before that, didn’t they? It was Helo’s Boomer that the Pegasus’ interrogator was about to rape, right? So there would have been a resurrection ship around for the Brothers Cavil.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/238 "2006-10-11T01:10:14Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
Hmm. They destroyed the resurrection ship shortly after the Pegasus showed up.

No, I think Starbuck went back & got Helo, Boomer & Anders before that, didn’t they? It was Helo’s Boomer that the Pegasus’ interrogator was about to rape, right? So there would have been a resurrection ship around for the Brothers Cavil.  
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No, Helo and Boomer came back with Starbuck the first time from Caprica. Cavil didn’t show up until the 2 part season finale “Lay Down your Burdens” - when Tyrol freaked out and beat up Callie he asked for a priest and got Cavil. (Tyrol: “How do you know I’m not a Cylon?” Cavil: “Because I’m a Cylon and I haven’t seen you at any of the meetings.”) The Resurrection ship was long gone by then, and Pegasus had lost so many Commanders they had to resort to Lee. Then in part 2 of the finale, Starbuck came back with the Caprica resistance, and brought another Cavil with them.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/239 "2006-10-11T01:12:35Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
24 premieres in January, right?  
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I think so. However, Jack is Jack from “Lost”, not Jack Bauer from the Jack Bauer Power Hour.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/240 "2006-10-11T01:15:32Z")

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[QUOTE=athelas]  
When are they going to learn that whenever an authority figure says “congratulations” to more than one person, the last one is going to get said leader hurt real good?  
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Are there more than two incidents, or so far is it Adama/Boomer and Duck/ExplosiveBelt?

-Joe

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