# Battlestar Galactica 3.1 & 3.2 — "Occupation" & "Precipice" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 6, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500 "2006-10-06T14:28:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/241 "2006-10-11T01:22:11Z")
[QUOTE=muldoonthief] No, Helo and Boomer came back with Starbuck the first time from Caprica. Cavil didn’t show up until the 2 part season finale “Lay Down your Burdens” - when Tyrol freaked out and beat up Callie he asked for a priest and got Cavil. (Tyrol: “How do you know I’m not a Cylon?” Cavil: “Because I’m a Cylon and I haven’t seen you at any of the meetings.”) The Resurrection ship was long gone by then, and Pegasus had lost so many Commanders they had to resort to Lee. Then in part 2 of the finale, Starbuck came back with the Caprica resistance, and brought another Cavil with them. [/QUOTE] Oh that’s right! Starbuck left Anders behind. Sniff, sniff. She went back for him later. I need medication. What’s the name of that disease? You know, the one where you lose your memory? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/242 "2006-10-11T01:25:42Z")
I forget. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/243 "2006-10-11T02:27:53Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] Are there more than two incidents, or so far is it Adama/Boomer and Duck/ExplosiveBelt? -Joe [/QUOTE] No, just those two. But I immediately thought of Adama/Boomer as XenaBot was going down the line shaking hands. By the way, I loved the set where they held the graduation ceremony. It’s sort of a darker (and blue-er) version of the place where Adama had is “So say we all” speech in the miniseries. ---
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/244 "2006-10-12T02:14:06Z")
I’m joining the party a little late (Apple only put the show on iTunes this morning, what the hell?), but I thought it was pretty obvious how Roslyn survives. Right before the shooting starts, as she’s staring uncomprehendingly at the toasters, Zarek starts pulling her back into the crowd. I’m guessing everyone dies, except for Zarek and Roslyn. Note that we didn’t actually know any of the other people on the trucks, except for Callie, who obviously escaped. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/245 "2006-10-12T02:38:13Z")
[QUOTE=Absolute] I’m guessing everyone dies, except for Zarek and Roslyn. Note that we didn’t actually know any of the other people on the trucks, except for Callie, who obviously escaped. [/QUOTE] Yeah, the Cylons would never find a way to counter the “slowly backing away” strategy! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/246 "2006-10-12T02:49:00Z")
Back into the crowd and play dead when the bodies start falling. It didn’t sound like the Cylons got off a large number of rounds. If and when they off a major character, it will be on-screen. They owe us that. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/247 "2006-10-12T02:54:25Z")
I’m not sure about Zarek surviving. There were three “name” characters on the truck. Seems unlikely that all three of them would survive. Hope I’m wrong, though. It’d be interesting to see Zarek and Rosalyn working together. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/248 "2006-10-12T02:57:02Z")
[QUOTE=Absolute] (Apple only put the show on iTunes this morning, what the hell?), [/QUOTE] I would like to point out that Apple computers were made to be networked, and IBM PCs weren’t. Cylons _like_ networked computers. Absolute likes Apple. Ergo, Absolute is a Cylon. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/249 "2006-10-12T02:57:03Z")
Someone upthread mentioned the sound of gunfire we hear might not be the Execution-urions. Could be someone coming to the rescue. Rhymes with “rumor.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/250 "2006-10-12T03:12:06Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Seems unlikely that all three of them would survive. [/QUOTE] I dunno, Moore said “we will lose people”, but it seems a little early. Killing the True Apollo would be too Oedipus like even for Ron Moore. Killing Madame President, newly saved from cancer by the V child, er, Cylon-Human child would seem a waste. Callie is running away, so that leaves who? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/251 "2006-10-12T03:15:56Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] I dunno, Moore said “we will lose people”, but it seems a little early. Killing the True Apollo would be too Oedipus like even for Ron Moore. Killing Madame President, newly saved from cancer by the V child, er, Cylon-Human child would seem a waste. Callie is running away, so that leaves who? [/QUOTE] Zarek the terrorist finds some sort of redemption by dying heroically protecting the scum-bag former president who tried to steal an election? Couldn’t be. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/252 "2006-10-12T03:21:46Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] scum-bag former president who tried to steal an election? [/QUOTE] Did she try to steal it, or did her minions? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/253 "2006-10-12T03:36:13Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Did she try to steal it, or did her minions? [/QUOTE] She did. She admitted to Adama that she gave the order, and Adama talked her into changing her mind. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/254 "2006-10-12T04:24:56Z")
[QUOTE=Subway Prophet] Huh. I need to go back and re-watch that episode. I tried looking up the details on battlestarwiki.org, but haven’t turned up anything conclusive. I did, however, see that there’s a new line of [BSG die-cast models/toys](http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Hasbro_Titanium_Collection) to be distributed by Hasbro. Mmmmmmmm, tasty. [/QUOTE] I line of models by realdoll of two particular Cylon babes would probably sell very well. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/255 "2006-10-12T04:52:39Z")
I DL’ed this ep off iTunes (FINALLY!), and am watching the opening, but i can’t help but MST3K two scenes… first scene, Adm. Adama is pushing around the model Raptor on the sitrep table, I imagine him making motorcycle noises, when he tosses the model across the table, i imagine the sounds of squealing tires and the breaking of glass Helo walks in \ Sir… \WHAT! \ (taken aback) sorry sir… \Knock before entering, _KNOCK_ next time…did you see anything? \No sir, I didn’t see you playing with your toy spaceships again… \…good… ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/256 "2006-10-12T06:06:32Z")
[QUOTE=Struan] I’ve little to add to the thread, but all I can say is that any worries I had about the re-boot last season have been well and truly laid to rest. One of the greatest TV programs ever made. [/QUOTE] Since nobody else has commented on this, I’d like to be the first to tip my hat. Takes a strong-minded chap to re-think an early opinion. Kudos. (I meant to say something earlier but the thread was moving pretty fast.) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/257 "2006-10-12T06:07:53Z")
Oh, and **MacTech** … “Vroom! Vroom! Skreeee!” 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500/258 "2006-10-12T13:31:07Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] She did. She admitted to Adama that she gave the order, and Adama talked her into changing her mind. [/QUOTE] And Adama told Baltar that there were “errors” in the counting of the ballots. Baltar didn’t order an invesigation or try to get back at Roslin though. I’m pretty sure it’s cause he feared Adama and Roslin creating a scandal by going public with the 6 thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-1-3-2-occupation-precipice/375500.md?page=12)