# Battlestar Galactica 3.20 - "Crossroads (part two)" - spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 25, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449 "2007-03-25T19:49:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/41 "2007-03-26T03:47:48Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] Err, why not? Isn’t part of the framework (for lack of a better word) of the series that non-kitchen utensile cylons resemble humans down to the submicroscopic level? If Helo can impregnate Athena, why couldn’t Cally be impregnated by the Chief? [/QUOTE] Nick may very well be another hybrid (in which case he’s likely destined to be Hera’s mate), but the Cylons made a huge deal over Hera. It’s clear none of their other breeding programs worked. And I just don’t think Baltar is the final Cylon. It’d just be to big of a cop out. I don’t think Roslin’s it either, unless Cylons can turn off their magic blood cells whenever it suits them. And if Kara was a Cylon why wouldn’t it have actually been Leoben in her visions instead of “someone else” using his form? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/42 "2007-03-26T03:49:20Z")
[QUOTE=Absolute] Of course, it could still be way before the dawn of human civilization… [/QUOTE] Don’t think it can be prior to 1967, when Dylan did the song. Unless he’s the final Cylon, and Jim Morrison saacrifices himself to save humanity… ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/43 "2007-03-26T03:50:38Z")
And why the heck are people worshiping Baltar? What do they know that we don’t? ---
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/44 "2007-03-26T03:52:52Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] Don’t think it can be prior to 1967, when Dylan did the song. Unless he’s the final Cylon, and Jim Morrison saacrifices himself to save humanity… [/QUOTE] Oh, yeah…duh. I guess I should go to bed. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/45 "2007-03-26T03:54:29Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] Don’t think it can be prior to 1967, when Dylan did the song. Unless he’s the final Cylon, and Jim Morrison saacrifices himself to save humanity… [/QUOTE] This lends credence to the BSG is set in the far future and Colonials have their history messed up theory. Of course it could just mean the universal translator in our TVs kicking in 😉 . Colonial Day had _Fly Me to the Moon_ in it. [QUOTE=Rubysteak] And why the heck are people worshiping Baltar? What do they know that we don’t? [/QUOTE] Why should the Colonials be anymore rational than Earthlings in deciding who/what to worship? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/46 "2007-03-26T03:55:57Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] Heh…Bet he’d get a huge standing ovation if he gave her the neck twist…but not before we see her naked, dammit! [/QUOTE] I haven’t seen Nicki Clyne’s naked body, but I lean toward the view that underneath that potato sack uniform is a potato sack body. YMMV The one I want to see naked is Dualla, and I’m not particular about the reason why or whether it advances the plot. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/47 "2007-03-26T03:57:41Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] Because we’ve been led to believe Cylons can’t reproduce with each other. That’s why Hera was such a big deal… [/QUOTE] But Cally isn’t a cylon, is she? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/48 "2007-03-26T03:59:20Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] But Cally isn’t a cylon, is she? [/QUOTE] Nope…and Chief appears to be. So there are now two poptarts in the fleet, or Cally was getting her some strange, or Chief is not really a Cylon… ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/49 "2007-03-26T04:00:36Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] But Cally isn’t a cylon, is she? [/QUOTE] Well RDM is a straight male, so it’s not out of the realm of possiblity that he’d have the entire series lead up to her emerging naked from a tub of goo. At least with Anders we finally got a hot male Cylon 🆒 . Now if only he could get into Lee’s head 😃 . ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/50 "2007-03-26T04:00:37Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] And why the heck are people worshiping Baltar? What do they know that we don’t? [/QUOTE] The fact that three episodes ago they trimmed his beard so it got pointier and more Jesusey looking? When they were doing the Saddam in prison metaphor, it was round and bushy, like Hussein’s. The secret’s in the beard. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/51 "2007-03-26T04:01:24Z")
One more distraction. Anybody know of a name definition/ethnic origin site? Because I have **never** met a “Tahmoh”. ---
**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/52 "2007-03-26T04:06:39Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] And why the heck are people worshiping Baltar? What do they know that we don’t? [/QUOTE] Did you see the YouTube bloopers? There was a naked Baltar they looked pretty impressed. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/53 "2007-03-26T04:10:12Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] One more distraction. Anybody know of a name definition/ethnic origin site? Because I have **never** met a “Tahmoh”. [/QUOTE] Darmok and Tahmoh at Tanagra 😃😃 Or; another victim of ‘yoo-nyque’ baby naming ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/54 "2007-03-26T04:40:31Z")
[QUOTE=lazybratsche] It was the lawyer’s cane – he set it against the wall, and walked away without it, all significant-like. [/QUOTE] It was right after he explained that, unlike himself, Lee Adama is an honest man. The fact the lawyer ditched his cane is meant to suggest that he was exaggerating his injury during the trial, to make himself seem more sympathetic. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/55 "2007-03-26T04:57:47Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] One more distraction. Anybody know of a name definition/ethnic origin site? Because I have **never** met a “Tahmoh”. [/QUOTE] Tahmoh’s mother is [White River First Nation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_River_First_Nation) from the Yukon Territory in Canada. That’s likely the source of his name. I wonder if “we’re all Cylons” means just those four, or everybody? Definitely earth there at the end, and the camera swooped out of the galaxy then back in on earth, so no wormhole from our perspective. But how Starbuck got there and back I don’t know. Cylon FTL technology is pretty good, but Lords of Kobol FTL could easily be able to jump from anywhere to anywhere, couldn’t it? ---
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[QUOTE=levdrakon] Cylon FTL technology is pretty good, but Lords of Kobol FTL could easily be able to jump from anywhere to anywhere, couldn’t it? [/QUOTE] When you “make shit up as you go along”, anything is possible. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/57 "2007-03-26T05:02:44Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] the camera swooped out of the galaxy then back in on earth, so no wormhole from our perspective. [/QUOTE] Sorry for the double post, but I figured out why that looked so darn familair; the credits in _Time Bandits._ ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/58 "2007-03-26T05:05:53Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Sorry for the double post, but I figured out why that looked so darn familair; the credits in _Time Bandits._ [/QUOTE] I was thinking of the ending to MIB II, but we didn’t zoom out far enough. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449/59 "2007-03-26T05:16:23Z")
Interesting that Lee chased Starbuck into something that looked vaguely like the storm from _Maelstrom_, and that he’s isolated from the rest of the Vipers. Don’t remember anyone confirming his unidentified Dradis contact. Also wondering why Dradis was unable to identify what appeared to be a shiny-and-definitely-not-blown-to-hell viper… ---
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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Why the Jimi Hendrix tune? The fleet is close enough to earth to receive radio signals? 🙂 [/QUOTE] I’m guessing they’re about 40 light years out :dubious: Cylons channel classic Dylan/Hendrix? I think the Galactica has set jump coordinates to the Shark Nebula. > [@lazybratsche](#): > > It was the lawyer’s cane – he set it against the wall, and walked away without it, all significant-like. Maybe he’s Keiser Soze? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-20-crossroads-part-two-spoilers/397449.md?page=4)