# Battlestar Galactica 3.4 - "Exodus, Part Two" (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 20, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262 "2006-10-20T18:30:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/261 "2006-10-25T01:28:17Z")
The wife is an even bigger fan than I am. She started watching it first season just to have something to talk to me about. She got hooked about three episodes in and hasn’t missed one since. She couldn’t care less about the science, but loves the human interactions. I think she even told Ron Moore she wanted to have his children when we saw him at Comic-Con! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/262 "2006-10-25T01:29:39Z")
**Mrs. Loopy** digs Helo, but the towel scene from _Final Cut_ did indeed put them in close contention. Lee’s pudgyness has really got her down. She’s also fond of Chief Tyrol. Really, it’s this almost endless parade of eye-candy for all involved. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/263 "2006-10-25T01:33:57Z")
Heck, fat Apollo almost has _me_ down. … every time he comes on screen now I wonder why he’s storing nuts in his cheeks like he’s some kinda space chipmunk. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/264 "2006-10-25T01:50:19Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] What, did she miss the episodes with Jamie Bamber in a towel??? [/QUOTE] She’s a Leonard Nimoy kind of woman. ^ :dubious: ^ ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/265 "2006-10-25T01:54:41Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] x=1/2at^2 isn’t enough of a nerd tag, already? \ [/QUOTE] Good point. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/266 "2006-10-25T01:56:38Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] the towel scene from _Final Cut_ did indeed put them in close contention. [/QUOTE] Er, have you heard him on the miniseries CD? He’s an English guy playing for the other team. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/267 "2006-10-25T02:05:23Z")
Jeez, don’t tell is [wife](http://www.jamiebamber.co.uk/). ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/268 "2006-10-25T02:06:56Z")
Or his kids! Especially the twins! They’ll be devastated! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/269 "2006-10-25T02:11:40Z")
Next you’ll be telling me that James Callis swished down the aisle. Maybe it’s an English thing. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/270 "2006-10-25T02:16:33Z")
Poor [Neha and Josh](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Callis)! Next thing you’re going to tell me, he and Jamie Bamber are rocking the Raptor model between takes! How sordid! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/271 "2006-10-25T02:25:55Z")
I just reported to Mrs. Plant that James is Jewish and she replied, “How sad.” Oye. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/272 "2006-10-25T02:27:42Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Er, have you heard him on the miniseries CD? He’s an English guy playing for the other team. [/QUOTE] I remember way back then they were doing an “about” show and Callis & Bamber were reading letters from fans and one question was “will there be gay characters?” They looked at each other suggestively and chuckled, “we’ll see.” It was mildly amusing at the time because it suggested there would be gay characters. Now we’re on season three with no gay characters and that little bit doesn’t seem so funny. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/273 "2006-10-25T02:35:22Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] Jeez, don’t tell is [wife](http://www.jamiebamber.co.uk/). [/QUOTE] You know how they say that people who live with each other a while start to look alike? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/274 "2006-10-25T02:40:33Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] It was mildly amusing at the time because it suggested there would be gay characters. Now we’re on season three with no gay characters and that little bit doesn’t seem so funny. [/QUOTE] It’s not canon, but I remain convinced that Felix Gaeta feels the love that cannot be named for Gaius Baltar. Well, _felt_ the love etc., 'cause he’s sure not a Baltar fan now. I still have hopes for poor Felix continuing on; it’d be an interesting way to develop his character. And if not Felix, maybe they’ll throw a bone to poor Capt. Kelly, who _really_ needs some development and screen-time. I was inordinantly cheered when he showed up again in Exodus pt. I. But I vaguely recall this, too, being mentioned by Moore in one of his podcasts – along the lines of “if we can figure out how to do it well.” ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/275 "2006-10-25T02:49:23Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] But I vaguely recall this, too, being mentioned by Moore in one of his podcasts – along the lines of “if we can figure out how to do it well.” [/QUOTE] Which is basically a euphemism for “not on my show.” Geez, how many people went and got married? There are no orphans rescued from sexual slavery who need a nice wholesome gay couple to adopt them? It doesn’t have to be the focus of the whole frakin’ episode or anything. I like your idea about Capt. Kelly. I actually would like to see his character developed if they’re going to keep sticking him in the background and giving him little lines now and then. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/276 "2006-10-25T02:53:00Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] …“if we can figure out how to do it well.” [/QUOTE] Doing it well would be handling a same-sex relationship _exactly_ how RDM’s handled every other relationship on the damned show. The whole “sexuality wouldn’t be an issue (in the future)” is a fucking cope out when every expression of sexuality is between a male and a female. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/277 "2006-10-25T03:12:39Z")
I think the chuckles were over Callis’ arguably most well-known role as a gay pal of [Bridget Jones](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243155/). ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/278 "2006-10-25T03:26:30Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] poor Capt. Kelly, who _really_ needs some development and screen-time. I was inordinantly cheered when he showed up again in Exodus pt. I. [/QUOTE] I wondered who the hell he was when RM mentioned Kelly in the podcast, 'till I saw him in the miniseries along with _Serenity._ I thought he was killed when she took the nuke, or Cain bit his ear of or something. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/279 "2006-10-25T03:37:52Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] I thought he was killed when she took the nuke, or Cain bit his ear of or something. [/QUOTE] He shows up from time to time. He was the landing officer when Starbuck was teaching the newbies to land, IIRC. He’s also the third in command of Galactica – after the Old Man and the XO. My favorite theory is that we don’t see him because he’s the guy who’s busy making all those incredibly detailed models that Starbuck and Adama like pushing around on their situation board. Do we _really_ think they had a model of the Colonial Carrier sitting around on the Galactica, just in case they had to plan an ambush on a Cylon tyllium mine? I mean, it _can’t_ be a coincidence that they learn about the Resurrection Ship for the first time, and by the time they have their plan together to show to Caine, here’s a painted-and-to-scale mounted miniature of the Resurrection Ship for Starbuck to push around, _and, hey, where’s Capt. Kelly been all this time?!?!_ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/280 "2006-10-25T03:41:54Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] here’s a painted-and-to-scale mounted miniature of the Resurrection Ship for Starbuck to push around, _and, hey, where’s Capt. Kelly been all this time?!?!_ [/QUOTE] I can understand that, but I have issues with how a Commander ranks a Captain. Hornblower ain’t in it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262.md?page=15)