# Battlestar Galactica 3.4 - "Exodus, Part Two" (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 20, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262 "2006-10-20T18:30:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/281 "2006-10-25T03:46:08Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] My favorite theory is that we don’t see him because he’s the guy who’s busy making all those incredibly detailed models that Starbuck and Adama like pushing around on their situation board. Do we _really_ think they had a model of the Colonial Carrier sitting around on the Galactica, just in case they had to plan an ambush on a Cylon tyllium mine? I mean, it _can’t_ be a coincidence that they learn about the Resurrection Ship for the first time, and by the time they have their plan together to show to Caine, here’s a painted-and-to-scale mounted miniature of the Resurrection Ship for Starbuck to push around, _and, hey, where’s Capt. Kelly been all this time?!?!_ [/QUOTE] I like that one and I’ve also just assumed he’s the guy in charge when Adama, Tigh, Apollo & Starbuck are theoretically sleeping. They _do_ have to operate 24/7. But then they show him on duty at the same time as everyone else and I get confused again. Oh, frak. Just give him his own show. _Battlestar Galactica: The Night Shift._ ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/282 "2006-10-25T04:07:17Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] All relationships take work. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Sig line! ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/283 "2006-10-25T04:47:42Z")
Delightful … the _Hogan’s Heroes/Stalaag 17_ retarded story arc ends with the pointless loss of the only modern battlestar left, as well as depleting any and all mystique remaining to the Toasters, humanoid or otherwise. Of course, the _Pegasus_ had the ability to manufacture the Mark VII Vipers. :rolleyes: And now we get to limp through endless cycles of post-WWII, Vichy and Nuremberg-style consequences of the collaborators from planetside. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/284 "2006-10-25T13:30:34Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] Which is basically a euphemism for “not on my show.” [/QUOTE] Wait, so now he’s _obligated_ to give the another of left’s pet issues what you all determine to be “adequate” screen time? Be grateful you got the nice Iraq parallels with the Occupation. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/285 "2006-10-25T13:56:36Z")
[QUOTE=cerberus] (buncha stuff) [/QUOTE] If you don’t like the show, why do you watch it? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/286 "2006-10-25T14:00:07Z")
Well, out of fairness, I love the show, and I bitch about things incessantly in my usual, annoying, nitpicky way that I need to get under control. However, that review does look like something more in line with someone who plain doesn’t like the show. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/287 "2006-10-25T14:02:24Z")
Sometimes, I find myself wondering if Moore is choosing plots simply because they’ll annoy the maximum number of Internet persimmons. And then I think, “Way to go, Ron.” ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/288 "2006-10-25T14:16:45Z")
[QUOTE=cerberus] Delightful … the _Hogan’s Heroes/Stalaag 17_ retarded story arc ends with the pointless loss of the only modern battlestar left, as well as depleting any and all mystique remaining to the Toasters, humanoid or otherwise. Of course, the _Pegasus_ had the ability to manufacture the Mark VII Vipers. :rolleyes: And now we get to limp through endless cycles of post-WWII, Vichy and Nuremberg-style consequences of the collaborators from planetside. [/QUOTE] It’s still head-and-shoulders better than any number of reality shows put together. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/289 "2006-10-25T14:28:05Z")
[QUOTE=cerberus] And now we get to limp through endless cycles of post-WWII, Vichy and Nuremberg-style consequences of the collaborators from planetside. [/QUOTE] Limp? Some of us will _strut._ 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/290 "2006-10-25T14:47:49Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] It’s still head-and-shoulders better than any number of reality shows put together. [/QUOTE] Well, yes, but in all fairness so is Captain Kangaroo. At least when he has animals. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/291 "2006-10-25T14:53:58Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Well, yes, but in all fairness so is Captain Kangaroo. At least when he has animals. [/QUOTE] And even though he’s dead. Let’s review: BSG \> zombie Captain Kangaroo + animals \> reality TV \> 7th Heaven Any questions? ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/292 "2006-10-25T14:58:40Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] It’s still head-and-shoulders better than any number of reality shows put together. [/QUOTE] > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Mrs. Plant’s only false is an intense dislike of a BSG that doesn’t have Liquid Prell and blow dryers. The max factor for this series is that it is not just about pert cover girls in oil. Allay your fears that they may ban the sole marriage relationship of man and woman. It would be a vidal topic to bring up as the human race needs to repopulate. [sub]_Sorry, I just had to get that out of my head so that I could move on._[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/293 "2006-10-25T15:04:06Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] I can understand that, but I have issues with how a Commander ranks a Captain. Hornblower ain’t in it. [/QUOTE] It’s a fictional military. The Colonial Fleet’s ranks appear to be a combination of army and navy ranks. For officers it’s; Ensign, Lieutenant Junior Grade, Lieutenant , Captain, Major, Colonel, Commander, Rear Admiral, _Vice Admiral_, _Admiral_, and Fleet Admiral. A Commander in the Colonial Fleet translated to an Brigadier General in the US Army, a Rear Admiral (lower half) in the US Navy, and a Commodore in the Royal Navy. Cain was a Rear Admiral (per extended Pegasus. Adama appears to have been made Fleet Admiral (Nagala was FA in the mini). The ranks in conjecture are italics based on that. ---
**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/294 "2006-10-25T15:08:34Z")
For any gamers in the thread, I just saw this today for the first time: [http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/gallery.html](http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/gallery.html) As with any ambitious mod project, there’s a better than even chance that it dies a drama-related death in utero. But it might make it! Fap. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/295 "2006-10-25T15:24:54Z")
[Moore’s blog listing Colonial military ranks](http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/02/index.html#a000020) (scroll down) [wiki with rank insignia](http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Military_Ranks_(RDM)) (which seems to be extrapolating some information; it’s a wiki, after all) ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/296 "2006-10-25T15:32:21Z")
[QUOTE=athelas] Wait, so now he’s _obligated_ to give the another of left’s pet issues what you all determine to be “adequate” screen time? Be grateful you got the nice Iraq parallels with the Occupation. [/QUOTE] If RDM just doesn’t want homosexuality on his show he should come out and say it. His sneaking around is annoying. BSG’s premise is ripe with possible gay storylines. Colonial civilizations appears to completely lack racism and sexism (except for some naming conventions). Given their lack of hangups on gender roles lets assume that homosexuality may be so well accepted that it’s not in anyway remarkable. Meaning same-sex couples can marry along with their opposite-sex counterparts and a pride parade would never occure to anyone. Now all of the sudden 20,000,000,000 people have died. The human race is at a bottleneck. They literally must populate or perish. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/297 "2006-10-25T15:41:23Z")
[QUOTE=Corner Case] The max factor for this series [/QUOTE] Is that a Freudian slip for a show that had lots of 70’s hair? The rank question was intended to be of a humoroue nature. I apologize if I whooshed anyone. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/298 "2006-10-25T19:08:12Z")
[QUOTE=athelas] Wait, so now he’s _obligated_ to give the another of left’s pet issues what you all determine to be “adequate” screen time? Be grateful you got the nice Iraq parallels with the Occupation. [/QUOTE] I’m really not sure what you’re trying to say but if you’re saying gays are leftist and Iraq parallels are what turns them on then yours is one of the more surreal posts I’ve read in awhile. RDM has created this imaginary futuristic world where he’s gone out of his way to prominently place women and minorities in roles where they’re clearly established as being strong, intelligent and completely equal. The absence of a single depiction of a gay character is glaring. The problem now is the longer he waits, the harder it will be to casually introduce one without it coming across like a loud fart in a library. But if he doesn’t introduce one it makes it seem like in the “future”\* teh gays\* was a defect that was fortunately cured by advanced medical care. In other news: [QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Mrs. Plant’s only false is an intense dislike of a BSG that doesn’t have Liquid Prell and blow dryers. [/QUOTE] Maybe I’m missing a reference here but I thought Roslyn & D’Anna’s hairdos pretty much covered the Prell & blow-dryer set. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/299 "2006-10-25T19:23:26Z")
**alphaboi867** : I have removed the double post, as you requested, but your email address seems to have changed. Please change your registration to conform? … I was trying to send you an email acknowledgement, but it bounced. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/300 "2006-10-25T19:32:51Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] In other news: Maybe I’m missing a reference here but I thought Roslyn & D’Anna’s hairdos pretty much covered the Prell & blow-dryer set. [/QUOTE] Ah, but not 70’s hair. Consider Baltar with the anti-70’s hair, oily and unkempt, opposed to clean and perfect, like say a freshly shampoed wombat. Cleverly changing the subject, I shall remark that I’m not sure what Mrs. Plant objects to; maybe it’s Starbuck being female, maybe it’s just because I like it. 🙂 Could be worse. We could disagree about Trek. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262.md?page=16)