# Battlestar Galactica 3.4 - "Exodus, Part Two" (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 20, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262 "2006-10-20T18:30:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/321 "2006-10-26T02:49:06Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] [spoiler]All individuals of one model are supposed to be taken offline this season. No spoilers yet on which model; only speculation. Me, I’m guessing D’Anna will be the one, and Xena will move on to other things.[/spoiler] [/QUOTE] [spoiler]Yep, that’s the one I’ve heard. Supposedly she declares herself to be the Cylon god or something and the rest of them decide that her model is too unstable and shut down/box the entire model. (I’ve also heard that it is because Lucy Lawless didn’t want to be tied down to the series.) And, I’ve heard that the reason we haven’t seen the other five models so far is because all of them are boxed already, but that the Cylons may “unbox” one later on.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/322 "2006-10-26T03:05:24Z")
I think that Gaeta would work well as a good gay character at this stage of the game. Consider, for a moment, that he has had all the indications of a serious closet case when it comes to all romances (tightly wound, depressive, naive, obsessive with a certain someone…) that you could introduce a gay thread just based on the past subtext between him and Baltar. I also think it could be handled in a way that drastically deepens his character, especially since we’ve only seen a glimpse of the true him in _Final Cut_. What would it be like to invest your entire passion, love and vision in one man and then find out he’s the biggest traitor humanity has ever seen? Makes the Kara v. Lee tragedy seem subdued. I’m not saying it’d be the only way to handle Gaeta, but I do feel like it could be a tasteful and powerful storyline that’s relevant to the overall plot and character. It isn’t even, in my opinion, necessary for him to be locked in as far as orientation goes. There are plenty of people who are either bisexual or form such a powerful attachment to one member of the same sex that they are _only_ homosexual with that person. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/323 "2006-10-26T03:17:37Z")
Actually, yeah, I think that would be an awesome storyline to throw in. My point is that they shouldn’t throw in arbitrary points (as I think some of the throwaway lines in the Occupation storyline were) just to please certain constituencies. But that idea, if handled in, could be done quite well. (Although, I think it could be done equally well with a non-sexual attachment, just a case of idol-worship shattered) ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/324 "2006-10-26T03:46:34Z")
I think of all the characters Helo is the most susceptible to being axed. Which is a pity because he is _sob_ my favourite eye-candy. However, if they ever axe Tricia Helfer I’ll mutiny. I live for ChipSix’s outfits and psychoses. Hell, “would Six give up?” is what allows me to gasp out the last 5 minutes on the treadmill at 5:55 a.m. every day. Um, yes, I am sad and motivate myself with BSG during my daily workout. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/325 "2006-10-26T11:18:15Z")
I just listened to my first RDM poscast last night. Actually, I tried once before, but it went on too long. So, this time I stuck it out, to see if there were hints about tomorrow night. Anyhoo, the highlight for me was, when commenting on the Galactica free-fall, “If we don’t win the fucking Emmy for this, I swear to God…” or something very much to that effect. Jammer’s toast. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/326 "2006-10-26T12:38:36Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] Dualla didn’t have to marry Apollo. Cally marrying Tyrol and having a baby didn’t serve any particular story line. Starbuck marrying Anders didn’t advance the story. Helo didn’t have to marry Boomer. [/QUOTE] Individually, you’re right. But taken all together, it shows that the colonists decided to restart civilization after reaching New Caprica. It was time for them to stop running and start living again. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/327 "2006-10-26T12:41:57Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] “If we don’t win the fucking Emmy for this, I swear to God…” or something very much to that effect. [/QUOTE] You would think he would say “Frak”, wouldn’t you? 🙂 Where’d you get your spoiler, not that it is a bad thing? ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/328 "2006-10-26T13:12:04Z")
From the podcast. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/329 "2006-10-26T13:15:21Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] From the podcast. [/QUOTE] I thought he just said something like [/spoiler]his future is uncertain\* ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/330 "2006-10-26T13:16:35Z")
Some of us drink Scotch, some of us drink coffee. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/331 "2006-10-26T13:42:03Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] I thought he just said something like [/spoiler]his future is uncertain\* [/QUOTE] Yeeeah, but if you think about it, what are the alternatives? One is nobody knows of his guilt, which I think is rather unlikely, given his speaking rather clearly to a certain someone who really ought to have known who it was. So that leaves the other, which is they do know it him, in which case he’s in serious trouble. That possibility branches to, does he eat a slug sandwich, or is he spared? As we know from the preview, 13 people “vanish”, and I take it his peers didn’t number much more than the scores, or low hundreds, so the odds start to look pretty scary. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/332 "2006-10-26T14:17:05Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] they do know it him, in which case he’s in serious trouble. [/QUOTE] Cally may know. Of course, ski mask or no, they’d recognize hie beat up Addidas. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/333 "2006-10-26T14:19:18Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Cally may know. [/QUOTE] Bingo. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/334 "2006-10-26T14:23:28Z")
More dramatic to stretch it out a bit, and watch him unravel under the tension. Riffing off of **tanstaafl** ’s spoiler above: What if the Cylons have discovered that they are “unstable?” If they resurrect often enough, they go psychotic, or are prone to fits of “godhood.” The whole attack on the colonies could be a lashing out at the life form that created them, and the desperate attempt to breed hybrids a struggle to stave off the death of their entire species. The boxed models are ones that have gone “bad,” and they are running out of options. Might make for an interesting twist a ways doen the road. Could humans forgive the destruction of their species if it was an attempt to save another? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/335 "2006-10-26T14:28:52Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] More dramatic to stretch it out a bit, and watch him unravel under the tension. Riffing off of **tanstaafl** ’s spoiler above: [/QUOTE] Depends on how much they’ve had to drink. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/336 "2006-10-26T14:33:14Z")
… I think there’s no question they’re unstable. There’s the conflicted morality of the 6 and 8 models, which clearly makes working with them a serious risk-factor, as they’re prone to sedition, at least under the conditions of this war. And just look at Leoben, for frak’s sake. He even said that he’s God (in a strictly mystical sense, I’m sure, but still). He’s a loon! And what good is he? All he does is rant about swimming in the stream and seeing the patterns and so forth. I guess he’s shown some effectiveness for psy-opps, but otherwise he seems fairly disconnected from the organizers, and I’d guess he’s little interested in managing much of anything. Playing house with Kara seems to be only the sort of thing that he’s motivated to do. He’s no 5/Doral, that’s for sure. I would have picked the Leoben model for boxing immediately, but if Xenabot is developing true delusions of Godhood, boxing her certainly does make more sense. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/337 "2006-10-26T14:34:16Z")
Oh, FRAK. Need some help with coding! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/338 "2006-10-26T14:44:30Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] Oh, FRAK. Need some help with coding! [/QUOTE] I consider that to be speculation, and not spoiler material. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/339 "2006-10-26T14:45:18Z")
Reported. Makes for some interesting speculation, doesn’t it? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![groo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecd19e/32.png) [@groo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/groo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/340 "2006-10-26T16:13:25Z")
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