# Battlestar Galactica 3.4 - "Exodus, Part Two" (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 20, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262 "2006-10-20T18:30:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/161 "2006-10-22T19:31:18Z")
[QUOTE=minty green] My point is that if you can just jump wherever the hell you want, why bother to take off at all. Turn that key on and just mash the “FTL” button. [/QUOTE] Well, you have to get up to 88 miles an hour, first. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/162 "2006-10-22T19:35:05Z")
Just saw it earlier, and wow, just wow! Poor Saul, poor Kara and poor Felix. I haven’t been this invested in a TV show since the first series of Cracker. Does the Sci-fi channel show Doctor Who immediately before this? If so, you’ve one hell of a Friday night’s telly going. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/163 "2006-10-22T20:19:18Z")
Yes, it does, and yes, we do. Thanks for caring. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/164 "2006-10-22T20:32:00Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Well, you have to get up to 88 miles an hour, first. [/QUOTE] Really, it’s just simple FTL Science, 101. You can’t initiate an FTL jump while in a position of rest relative to the rotation of a large gravity well. For you civilians, that means you can’t just turn the key and mash the FTL button. FAA regulations strictly prohibit initiating an FTL jump within certain carefully proscribed vertical and horizontal distances above populated areas, buildings, etc. No sane pilot would attempt an FTL jump - even in an emergency - without first having cleared nearby structures. Sheesh. I can’t believe I always have to explain this stuff to you people. :rolleyes: I hope someone remembered to grab the dog. > [@](#): > > Does the Sci-fi channel show Doctor Who immediately before this? If so, you’ve one hell of a Friday night’s telly going. Yeah, during most of the year Scifi Fridays are a pretty well stocked Scifi-fantasy-supernatural buffet. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/165 "2006-10-22T20:33:51Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Well, you have to get up to 88 miles an hour, first. [/QUOTE] You think Galactica’s main power source can generate one point twenty one jigawatts of electricity? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/166 "2006-10-22T20:37:11Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] You think Galactica’s main power source can generate one point twenty one jigawatts of electricity? [/QUOTE] I dunno, but I like that better answer better than mine or that “gravity well mass building FCC” thing above. The stainless steel is pretty cool, too. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/167 "2006-10-22T21:58:10Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] Did you actually watch the show? The town was _empty_. They’re chasing 3 around to stop her from blowing up…who? [/QUOTE] I’m sitting here re-watching some of those scenes. When D’Anna left to set off the nuke, all they knew was they’d lost control of the situation on the ground and she gave the order to evacuate the Cylons from the facility. When Baltar told Gaeta, “if I don’t stop the bomb, humanity dies with me” he probably wouldn’t have known at that time how many people had already left. We know the nuke was “in this complex,” but D’Anna left the complex and took off towards the oracle’s tent. We the audience know that at about that time, or a little after, Pegasus died heroically holding off the Basestars. We also know while Pegasus was dying, Starbuck & Anders were still in the detention area and Starbuck was giving Leoben his good-bye kiss/stabbing. But by the time Baltar & Six caught up with D’Anna at the oracle’s tent it should have been obvious most people were gone. Gaeta might still be around somewhere, and Baltar was still there so it makes sense he’d want to stop the bomb if he’s not really suicidal. But I’d argue that whether D’Anna found Hera or not, by that point she probably wasn’t going to bother setting off the nuke anyway. If I were Baltar though, I’d still want to make sure. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/168 "2006-10-22T22:05:08Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] If I were Baltar though, I’d still want to make sure. [/QUOTE] Really, if people want to bitch about silliness, go ahead and ponder why all the Meatbags didn’t get into that Heavy Raider and then just lob a nuke from one of those orbiting Basestars. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/169 "2006-10-22T22:06:55Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] Really, if people want to bitch about silliness, go ahead and ponder why all the Meatbags didn’t get into that Heavy Raider and then just lob a nuke from one of those orbiting Basestars. -Joe [/QUOTE] Yeah, there’s that too. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/170 "2006-10-22T22:36:23Z")
Well, why not? The entire nuke element was pretty silly as executed. Nuking the place from orbit (only way to be sure) at the first sign of trouble would have made sense if, for instance, there was some resurrection facility aboard one of the basestars, or the Cylons had a rapid evac. plan. Sure, one of the 3s thinks the Pop Tart is still around, but nobody else does. Nobody needs a convoluted contingency plan that gives 3 all the time she needs to sift through the remnants of New Caprica City to find a baby literally everyone else but a human prophet thinks is long dead. My biggest complaint is why do silly things when you don’t have to? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/171 "2006-10-22T23:34:23Z")
[QUOTE=athelas] Yes, and so would _Reliant_’s. Then the odds would be equal. KHAAAAAAN! [/QUOTE] I’m deducting points on that quip for no mention of sauce for the goose. Also, more points for getting Kirk in there, well out of chronological sequence. If you score high on the next one, though, it shouldn’t affect your overall grade too much. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/172 "2006-10-23T01:46:04Z")
I’m having a problem with humans killing other humans at this point, traitors or not. They just don’t have that many to spare. It’s all well and good to want to kill the co-operators (Goodlifers, I guess we’re calling them), but that isn’t a luxury they can afford. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/173 "2006-10-23T02:09:27Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] They just don’t have that many to spare. [/QUOTE] I agree. They need to be planning to use AI for women to bear the children of various men as well as their spouses. However, I would presume there is a lot of testosterone bubbling about when you have an eye ripped out (yes, that was Cylons, but I’m making a damn example here. Pay attention. There will be a test on Tuesday.) or your friends hauled away in the dark of the night. Some kind on penance is certainly due for the Vichy, mining or agricultural details planetside, but the gene pool musn’t be decreased. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/174 "2006-10-23T02:52:59Z")
I didn’t think to notice, but are they still listing the number of survivors at the beginning? They had to have lost quite a few during the occupation and the escape itself, and I’m wondering how low the number must be now. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/175 "2006-10-23T02:58:33Z")
I have not seen the number listed as it was last season. I’m guessing they got away with around 35-38K… ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/176 "2006-10-23T03:01:10Z")
Could be. I was thinking low forties. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/177 "2006-10-23T03:02:58Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] I have not seen the number listed as it was last season. I’m guessing they got away with around 35-38K… [/QUOTE] I think they stopped showing the numbers around the time Starbuck came back with the Buccaneers, didn’t they? The dry-erase board behind Roslyn’s desk is supposed to be pretty important to her though. We should keep an eye out for that. Will Hera count as 1/2? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/178 "2006-10-23T03:12:37Z")
Has it been established on-screen that Leoben was actually raping Kara? I got the impression he was. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/179 "2006-10-23T03:13:17Z")
Hera’s probably going to be considered _sui generis_, I’m thinking. This just occurred to me: If Hera doesn’t have some kind of advanced growth rate, we’re not going to see much development of her character unless we get some more large time leaps, like we did at the end of the second season. I wonder if she’ll stay a baby for the forseable future. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262/180 "2006-10-23T03:25:17Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] I got the impression he was. [/QUOTE] So did I, but I saw nothing to explicitly indicate it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-4-exodus-part-two-spoilers/377262.md?page=10)