# Battlestar Galactica 3.8 - "Hero" (spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 17, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867 "2006-11-17T18:57:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/1 "2006-11-17T18:57:36Z")

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_ **All of this has had spoilers before, and all of this will have spoilers again.** _

Spoiler policy:

If it’s aired, or if it’s purely speculation, no need for a spoiler box. If it’s from a future episode as revealed by interviews, web content, or kamala-induced clairvoyance, then hide it in a spoiler box, and provide a generally descriptive label so we can decide for ourselves whether or not it’s something we want to know. To wit:_I kidnapped Ron Moore and stuck glowy things in his ear until he revealed the other five Cylons!_But I’ll never tell **you** bozos, bwa ha haaah.  
Okay, so…

Lots of stuff is going on, but this episode looks like a standalone. I’m guessing they’re saving money with a bottle show (i.e. no new sets) after the blowouts that opened the season. Maybe it’ll kick off a new story arc, or more likely it’ll be self-contained. We’ll see later tonight.

We haven’t seen much of Starbuck since Adama yanked her leash, and Tigh has been holed up with his private misery. But since the [preview](http://video.scifi.com/player.html?dlid=43865) makes this look like an Adama-centric story, I’m sure there’ll be plenty of opportunities to get both of them back into the game.

And will Helo really be forgiven? As I said in last week’s thread, it doesn’t bother me that Adama is taking his side, but what about everybody else? If Apollo ever finds out, he’s going to want to tear off Mr. Agathon’s Cylon injector.

Oh, and I think we’re all expecting major fallout from the Baltar-Xena thing last week. Hoo boy.

Tonight at 9pm on Sci-Fi. Be there!

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/2 "2006-11-17T19:08:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]

Lots of stuff is going on, but this episode looks like a standalone. I’m guessing they’re saving money with a bottle show (i.e. no new sets) after the blowouts that opened the season. Maybe it’ll kick off a new story arc, or more likely it’ll be self-contained. We’ll see later tonight.

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Actually, from what I saw in the web stuff…

I think our “Hero” with the dreads is going to be around for like 3 episodes.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/3 "2006-11-17T19:10:12Z")

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I predict that a geeky, slightly overweight Japanese man will suddenly appear on the bridge of Galactica. The constipated expression initially on his face will be replaced by a look of joy. He’ll raise his arms and shout, “Yatta!”

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/4 "2006-11-17T19:15:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Terminus Est]  
I predict that a geeky, slightly overweight Japanese man will suddenly appear on the bridge of Galactica. The constipated expression initially on his face will be replaced by a look of joy. He’ll raise his arms and shout, “Yatta!”  
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Damn, I hate it when I don’t get the joke.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/5 "2006-11-17T19:43:27Z")

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[Yatta!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Look_Back_(Heroes_episode))

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/6 "2006-11-18T01:31:48Z")

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Or maybe he’ll refuse to kill the Qin Emperor. “A warrior’s greatest act is to lay down his sword.”

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/7 "2006-11-18T02:06:11Z")

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Please tell me that some fan with get a capture of the dossier. I’ve been wonder what their calender is like and what year it is for them.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/8 "2006-11-18T02:23:56Z")

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Kinky Cylons.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/9 "2006-11-18T02:26:06Z")

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Oh, gods. OK, so did Doc Cottle say his DNA checks out with military records, and hence he’s not a Cylon? Did he just say that? Because, if he did, why did he not also mention that, hey, that whole Cylon detector thing was a big waste of time, at least for military personnel, since we’ve got a database of DNA fingerprints we can cross-reference?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/10 "2006-11-18T02:28:49Z")

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Wasn’t Ellen living on New Caprica for some time before Saul? Why did she leave her clothes on Galactica? Or did Saul remember to pack a suitcase before he left New Caprica.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/11 "2006-11-18T02:36:06Z")

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This is starting to suck what with the guilt thing.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/12 "2006-11-18T02:37:25Z")

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[QUOTE=alphaboi867]  
Or did Saul remember to pack a suitcase before he left New Caprica.  
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There was a scene of his tenderly hanging them up in his closet back aboard Galactica.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/13 "2006-11-18T02:38:01Z")

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Holy FRAK, what a plot twist…

Adama’s black ops mission frak-up may have _started_ the second Cylon War

just when we thought the Old Man had no skeletons in his closet, Adm. Adama has the _mother_ of all skeletons…

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/14 "2006-11-18T02:49:26Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
This is starting to suck what with the guilt thing.  
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Or not.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/15 "2006-11-18T03:00:27Z")

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Preview.

Good Lord, a boxing show?

That’s why I quit watching Babylon 5. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/16 "2006-11-18T03:11:02Z")

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Okay, Adama gets a medal for 45 years of service. He’s known Tigh for 30 years. Remember when we saw Adama and Tigh meet for the first time and they were both civilians? We still need an explanation for why Adama & Tigh were out of the military.

Can someone explain to me why exactly the Cylons let Bulldog go? All I got was they wanted him to find his way to Galactica so he could find out why he was captured to begin with?

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/17 "2006-11-18T03:12:49Z")

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Woo-hoo! The _real_ BSG characters are back this week!

I don’t know who those look-alikes were from the last few episodes, but they didn’t have me fooled for a second. Apollo is back to being the idealist with daddy issues, Adama is back to stoic mopey, Roslin is smart again, Starbuck knows what she’s doing with the piloting, and Tigh is grumpily kicking ass when it needs kicking (even his own, apparently).

[QUOTE=Loopydude]  
Did he just say that? Because, if he did, why did he not also mention that, hey, that whole Cylon detector thing was a big waste of time, at least for military personnel, since we’ve got a database of DNA fingerprints we can cross-reference?  
[/QUOTE]

Wasn’t the computer screen that Doc Cottle was looking at pretty similar to the readout from Baltar’s Cylon-detector computer screen?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/18 "2006-11-18T03:18:54Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
Remember when we saw Adama and Tigh meet for the first time and they were both civilians?  
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No. What ep was that?

[QUOTE=levdrakon]

Can someone explain to me why exactly the Cylons let Bulldog go? All I got was they wanted him to find his way to Galactica so he could find out why he was captured to begin with?  
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So he would kill Adama.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/19 "2006-11-18T03:18:57Z")

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OK, so, the Cylons have been holding this Bulldog guy for three years, just _waiting_ for the odd chance to spring him on William Adama. Wow. I mean, my gods, the genius.

Also, we’re actually supposed to buy Adama blaming himself for the entire frakking invasion? For doing his frakking job, for frak’s sake? He can’t be that big of an idiot.

Too little Cylons. Way too frakking much _bad_ writing with the humans. What in the (forgive me) FUCK is going on in Battlestar land?

Next week…neeext weeeek…

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-3-8-hero-spoilers/380867/20 "2006-11-18T03:19:51Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
Can someone explain to me why exactly the Cylons let Bulldog go? All I got was they wanted him to find his way to Galactica so he could find out why he was captured to begin with?  
[/QUOTE]  
As Tigh explained it, the Cylons knew Novacek would find out what Adama had done and try to kill him. But that theory also means the Cylons know where the fleet is, so they could program his raider to jump there, so why not just send over a frakload of basestars?

Why is Bulldog leaving Galactica? Just to get away from Adama? They need good fighter pilots like they need oxygen. Get over it, people.

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