# Battlestar Galactica 4.11 - "The Hub" (spoilers ahead) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 6, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030 "2008-06-06T16:57:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/101 "2008-06-13T01:00:36Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] One would think they would figure out the reproduction thing first. šŸ™‚ [/QUOTE] Murder is easier than love. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/102 "2008-06-13T01:08:21Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Murder is easier than love. šŸ˜‰ [/QUOTE] Iā€™m not saying itā€™s a _bad_ thing. If all the meatbags get, er, ā€œtoastedā€ before they have little meatbags it would be a Good Thing. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/103 "2008-06-13T04:53:44Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Iā€™m not saying itā€™s a _bad_ thing. If all the meatbags get, er, ā€œtoastedā€ before they have little meatbags it would be a Good Thing. šŸ™‚ [/QUOTE] Can we call the kids meatballs? Cause that tickles my funny bone. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/104 "2008-06-13T10:52:58Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] Can we call the kids meatballs? Cause that tickles my funny bone. šŸ˜ƒ [/QUOTE] Meatballs would be something Cavil or Leoben would have, but nox a Six or Boomer. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/105 "2008-06-13T15:11:40Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] Can we call the kids meatballs? Cause that tickles my funny bone. šŸ˜ƒ [/QUOTE] I second the motion, and call for a voice vote. All in favor? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/106 "2008-06-13T15:23:35Z")
[QUOTE=Mr. Excellent] I second the motion, and call for a voice vote. All in favor? [/QUOTE] I submit [Easy Bake](http://www.hasbro.com/easybake/default.cfm?page=History) ā„¢Ovens instead. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/107 "2008-06-16T23:19:09Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Cables? Towed? The writers have never heard of Newtonā€™s laws of motion? [/QUOTE] I know Iā€™m a little late with this and weā€™ve moved on to arguing about the next episode, but hereā€™s the thing: the Heavy Raiders doing the towing were depicted as cruising along at low acceleration towards the hub, then boosting up to high acceleration for a bit before ejecting the cables and veering away to go fight. You can tell this by the size of the engine flames, as seen from the perspective of Hardball while she stares at the ass of her Heavy Raider and curses at it. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/108 "2008-06-17T01:50:57Z")
[QUOTE=sturmhauke] the Heavy Raiders doing the towing were depicted as cruising along at low acceleration towards the hub, [/QUOTE] What was the point? The Cylons donā€™t have RADAR? What did the vipers do with the cable hanging off them? Why not accelerated the Vipers, point 'em at the hub and shut down their engines? Maybe they some sort of Trek like impulse engine that while not FTL violates Newtonian motion. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/109 "2008-06-17T02:18:48Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] What was the point? The Cylons donā€™t have RADAR? What did the vipers do with the cable hanging off them? Why not accelerated the Vipers, point 'em at the hub and shut down their engines? Maybe they some sort of Trek like impulse engine that while not FTL violates Newtonian motion. šŸ™‚ [/QUOTE] Maybe because their RADAR isnā€™t magical, and as such canā€™t see THROUGH a Raider to whatā€™s on the other side? Again, obvious stuff, straight out of the episode. If youā€™re going to nitpick, try to to be so bad at it. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/110 "2008-06-17T03:04:29Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] If youā€™re going to nitpick, try to to be so bad at it. [/QUOTE] Say what? šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/111 "2008-06-17T07:00:56Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Why not accelerated the Vipers, point 'em at the hub and shut down their engines? [/QUOTE] The Vipers were powered down until the last minute so as not to give off an energy signature that the enemy Cylons could pick up. Perhaps there was also some sort of jamming going on, or their radar sucks at detecting cold objects, or they were too busy tracking hot targets once the attack started to notice the cold Vipers - Iā€™ll allow that itā€™s a bit iffy in that respect. At any rate, a cold Viper isnā€™t going to get anywhere by itself, hence the tow. There is no violation of Newtonian mechanics here. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/112 "2008-06-17T13:09:43Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] Maybe because their RADAR isnā€™t magical, and as such canā€™t see THROUGH a Raider to whatā€™s on the other side? Again, obvious stuff, straight out of the episode. If youā€™re going to nitpick, try to to be so bad at it. [/QUOTE] If youā€™re going to fanwank, try to know what youā€™re talking about. The Colonials use DRADIS, not RADAR. It does the same thing as radar, except when it doesnā€™t for plot purposes. From what we have seen, dradis does not have sufficient resolution to distinguish between ā€œHeavy Raiderā€ and ā€œHeavy Raider towing Viper deadweight.ā€ And _as they said on the episode_, the Vipers were powered down because the Basestars and Hub would have detected the signature of the Colonial electronics. Apparently the Vipersā€™ electronics systems are therefore necessary for them to use their thrusters. And the reason for pairing them up with the Heavy Raiders was that the Hub and its attendant Basestars would permit the approach of Cylon vessels, where they would have started firing or jumped away at the approach of Colonial vessels. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030/113 "2008-06-17T20:11:39Z")
You know, Vipers can stick to stuff. Weā€™ve seen them do it for instance when they raided the tillium refinery, and Starbuck had one stuck to her ship recently. Maybe they should have had the Vipers just stick to the bottom of the Heavy Raiders. Might look a little silly, but the tow cables didnā€™t look much more dignified. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-11-the-hub-spoilers-ahead/452030.md?page=5)