# Battlestar Galactica 4.15 - "The Oath" (spoiler warning)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 30, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723 "2009-01-30T16:30:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723/181 "2009-02-06T03:44:39Z")

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> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#):
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> Hasn’t she provided him with key information that he would not otherwise have known?

She’s also slammed his head into things and lifted him up off the ground.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723/182 "2009-02-06T03:48:33Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> She’s also slammed his head into things and lifted him up off the ground.

Ah yes. I remember that now. And I remember thinking “well, that proves she’s not a figment of his imagination…right?”

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723/183 "2009-02-06T03:51:14Z")

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> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#):
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> Ah yes. I remember that now. And I remember thinking “well, that proves she’s not a figment of his imagination…right?”

Just like how Tyler Durden beat the crap out of Jack in _Fight Club_ means that he was real too, right?

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**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723/184 "2009-02-06T04:16:53Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> She’s also slammed his head into things and lifted him up off the ground.

That’s what Baltar perceived, but it’s not necessarily what actually happened.

I remember one scene in which HeadSix was pulling Baltar by the necktie. Then it shows what the people around him see: he’s grabbing his own tie, and standing on his toes.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723/185 "2009-02-06T04:18:39Z")

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Fair enough. But weren’t there people standing nearby who noticed that he was sort of… levitating?

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723/186 "2009-02-06T04:20:35Z")

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Should have previewed. That’s the same scene that Strinka mentioned I think. Which episode was that in? Time to re-watch.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723/187 "2009-02-06T14:04:59Z")

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> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#):
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> Fair enough. But weren’t there people standing nearby who noticed that he was sort of… levitating?

No, actually when she dragged up him up after the one guy hit him, we see it from their perspective, and while there was some contortionism involved, he was dragging himself up.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723/188 "2009-02-06T17:03:33Z")

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They are just all suffering from PTSDS 😛

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723/189 "2009-02-06T22:30:32Z")

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Should we start a part Two thread, or continue here?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-15-the-oath-spoiler-warning/483723/190 "2009-02-06T22:51:19Z")

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