# Battlestar Galactica 4.19 - "Someone to Watch Over Me" (spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 27, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684 "2009-02-27T17:10:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/261 "2009-03-03T00:57:40Z")

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> [@Bear McCreary](#):
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> “That’s the song,” Tory says, in shock. But, the remarkable thing is that’s not. As I mentioned earlier, there was no instrumental melody in Bob Dylan’s “All Along the Watchtower” that would work for this episode’s needs. As a result, the music they’re hearing is in fact, my music: The Final Four Theme.

Well, that should put the debate to rest. 😃

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/262 "2009-03-03T01:41:56Z")

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> [@Corner\_Case](#):
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> Well, that should put the debate to rest. 😃

I can almost live with that, because the tune is completely unrecognizable in the show. But some of the characters were reciting bits of the ‘Watchtower’ lyrics while they were trying to place it.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/263 "2009-03-03T03:06:35Z")

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“Heroes” just used Fleetwood Mac to set up a scene’s mood.

You all are _nuts_ for bitching about “All Along the Watchtower”, let me tell you.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/264 "2009-03-03T05:05:38Z")

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Standing by the stance I’ve taken on Watchtower. Those that don’t like it…

Regards.  
🆒

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**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/265 "2009-03-03T06:43:28Z")

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Why’s it so hard to accept that **BSG** takes place in a parallel universe where _All Along The Watchtower_ also happened to have been written? It’s also a strange sitar-y version, which makes it seem even more parallel universe-y, not our universe-y.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/266 "2009-03-03T07:34:06Z")

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Because you don’t tug on Superman’s cape, you don’t spit into the wind, you don’t pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger, and you don’t deny Oak the explanation he wants…(or he shall rant against you on the internet.)

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/267 "2009-03-03T12:20:16Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> “Heroes” just used Fleetwood Mac to set up a scene’s mood.
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> You all are _nuts_ for bitching about “All Along the Watchtower”, let me tell you.

You don’t see the difference between using a song in the background to set a mood, and possibly reattributing authorship of a well-known song for no apparent reason? OK, _you’re_ nuts. 😉

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/268 "2009-03-03T13:31:07Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> You don’t see the difference between using a song in the background to set a mood, and possibly reattributing authorship of a well-known song for no apparent reason? OK, _you’re_ nuts. 😉

I think its just a highly sophisticated copyright theft scam someone is trying to pull 🙂  
And thanks guy for the Domo Roboto and Doom and Dispair song ideas. I got a good laugh outa both of the those. I’d like to see somebody get creative on youtube with those songs and smart video clips from the series!

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/269 "2009-03-03T15:43:05Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> You don’t see the difference between using a song in the background to set a mood, and possibly reattributing authorship of a well-known song for no apparent reason? OK, _you’re_ nuts. 😉

Having read this song discussion, well… just trying to fit in. 😛

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**Author:** ![LiquidAmber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/50afbb/32.png) [@LiquidAmber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LiquidAmber)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/270 "2009-03-03T18:47:25Z")

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Hmmm, reading this thread gave me a new theory on the Cylons that went to earth after leaving Kobol. Not being in the know, someone has likely come up with it first but it just occured to me.

- Cylons arrived on Earth approximately 2000 years ago
- Humans already were present on earth but were very warlike and violent(standard evolution human)
- Cylons found that they had compatiable biology to procreate with humans but found out that fetus self-aborted if the human didn’t have the ‘Love’ hormones circulating to prevent rejection
- A visionary Cylon then made contact with humans and preached love for one another
- This of course led to his cruxifiction but being a cylon, he just rezzed back at the ship and showed up 3 days later
- A new religion of love spread and sweeps over much of the planet
- The rest of the Cyclons intermingle with humans and for the next 2000 years and produce cyclon-human hybrids
- In a short period of time they abandon rez technology in favor of biological procreation but remembering the prophecy that they will once again be rezzed at the end

The rest is history

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/271 "2009-03-03T20:46:24Z")

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> [@LiquidAmber](#):
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> The rest is history

You are so going to the Bad Place…🙂

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/272 "2009-03-03T21:23:37Z")

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Actually, kinda makes sense. Why would Moore and company have picked 2000 years out of nowhere?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/273 "2009-03-03T21:52:01Z")

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I’ll go along with that one too (nice job, **LiquidAmber**!).

But it means there has to have been a sect, deep in hiding for two millenia or more, of Cylons who remember who they were and where they came from, and that resurrection is a forgotten technology and not divine intervention, and even now is working feverishly away at it in some secret laboratory (in space?).

Well, it’s \*possible \*…

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/274 "2009-03-03T21:57:25Z")

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Wasn’t it 3000 years ago when the 13th tribe settled earth? Then they spent 2000 years traveling to the colonies. So earth got nuked around the time of Christ? Wouldn’t we have noticed?

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/275 "2009-03-03T22:47:58Z")

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I’m pretty sure they said that Earth got nuked 2000 years before the time of BSG. So it was settled however long ago the exodus from Kobol supposedly took place, minus 2000 years, not counting travel time since I don’t know if FTL had been invented then or not.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/276 "2009-03-04T02:08:08Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> But it means there has to have been a sect, deep in hiding for two millenia or more, of Cylons who remember who they were and where they came from, and that resurrection is a forgotten technology and not divine intervention, and even now is working feverishly away at it in some secret laboratory (in space?).

Or it might have all been written down in the 13th Dead Sea scroll, and they found it later.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/277 "2009-03-04T06:32:25Z")

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My head hurts. ☹

Is there a wiki-whatever timeline that definatively tracks all this?

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/278 "2009-03-04T13:39:37Z")

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Try [Battlestar wiki’s timeline](http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Timeline_(RDM))

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/279 "2009-03-04T16:22:43Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I disagree. “You’re dismissed” is specifically a military thing. A civilian would say something more like “We’re finished here” or “You can leave now” or “Get out of my office”.

Bear in mind, this was also a not-so-subtle rebuke and power play to knock him down for him standing up for Boomer. It was a little knife twist to remind him who is in charge. She was not just dismissing \*him \*but his _arguements_.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/280 "2009-03-06T14:35:02Z")

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Six, er, Carla

got whacked last night on _Burn Notice._

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