# Battlestar Galactica 4.19 - "Someone to Watch Over Me" (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 27, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684 "2009-02-27T17:10:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/141 "2009-03-01T00:35:52Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > And, the big revelation that you seem to think is necessary to each episode now: Starbuck is plugged into whatever it was that activated the Final Five. Actually, I don’t think so. The tune Starbuck was plinking out was from notation written by Hera, IIRC. She certainly did seem to have a virtual Cylon experience, but then again so does Baltar. Maybe Baltar’s her half-brother? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/142 "2009-03-01T00:36:53Z")
I think Starbuck was best strategist in the fleet during the tyllium episode. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/143 "2009-03-01T00:38:55Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > 1. WTF is up with Rosilyn telling Chief “you’re dismissed”? He’s not military, neither is she. I thought he was reinstated by Adama. Not sure about constitutional law in this show, but a commander-in-chief normally would be considered the head of the military and thus entitled to give such orders. Anyway, what else would Roslyn say when she’s tired of Tyrol’s bleating? “Get the fuck out of my face?” It makes sense that she would just say “dismissed.” ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/144 "2009-03-01T00:47:38Z")
> [@Cosmic Relief](#): > > I thought he was reinstated by Adama. Not sure about constitutional law in this show, but a commander-in-chief normally would be considered the head of the military and thus entitled to give such orders. Anyway, what else would Roslyn say when she’s tired of Tyrol’s bleating? “Get the fuck out of my face?” It makes sense that she would just say “dismissed.” I rewatched, and she did say “we’re done here Chief” in Civilianese first. He was in uniform and wearing rank. When he didn’t leave she said “you’re dismissed.” I’m sure she was putting it in military terms for him. ---
**Author:** ![vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@vandal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vandal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/145 "2009-03-01T01:00:54Z")
Okay, I’ve lost track of one of the Sharons. I know Boomer is the one who shot Adama and just kidnapped Hera. I know Athena is the one with Helo and who also just got pounded by Boomer. But who’s the Sharon that was working on the hull and got whacked in the head by Tyrol? ---
**Author:** ![Prox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Prox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prox)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/146 "2009-03-01T01:07:46Z")
Just a random 8 from the Basestar. I don’t think Athena had any plans to frak Helo and even tried to get out of it before deciding she couldn’t without raising his suspicion. Hard to say how into it she was; I don’t really remember her being jealous of Athen’s relationship with Helo before. I’m curious if Athena will hold it against Helo, but I don’t think there’s really enough time left to dwell on it. I don’t think there’s any reason to believe the fleet is still at Earth. The Cylons have had at least two different ways of tracking the fleet; I don’t see any reason why Cavil couldn’t figure out another way, especially when there’s a whole bunch of Cylon tech in the fleet now. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/147 "2009-03-01T01:19:28Z")
> [@Prox](#): > > The Cylons have had at least two different ways of tracking the fleet; I don’t see any reason why Cavil couldn’t figure out another way, especially when there’s a whole bunch of Cylon tech in the fleet now. Is there any phenomenon in BSG that travels faster than light? I recall the Cylons saw Baltar’s nuke go off some years later, but I don’t recall how they were following them after they jumped in the first episode or so. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/148 "2009-03-01T01:35:40Z")
> [@Prox](#): > > I don’t think there’s any reason to believe the fleet is still at Earth. The Cylons have had at least two different ways of tracking the fleet; I don’t see any reason why Cavil couldn’t figure out another way, especially when there’s a whole bunch of Cylon tech in the fleet now. Conversely, if they jumped because Cavil can track them, they would definitely have shown us Cavil jumping in. Cavil may well know where they are, but if so he’s holding back because that’s not the plan at the moment. Also, they’re making a big deal out of how many jumps Galactica has left in her, and I think they’re saving those on purpose for the finale, or at least until Cavil shows up. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/149 "2009-03-01T01:38:16Z")
Everyone’s assuming that Cavill would immediately jump to the fleet and start hammering at them… He could very well know where they are and just be staying distant. As others have pointed out, now that death is on the line, he thinks twice before starting a landwar in asia, or matching witts with a caprican. If Hera is indeed special, he would also want her out of harms way (or atleast with him for leverage) when he does decide to jump in. I have no issue with the idea that Cavill knows where they are, regaurdles of them being in Earth’s solar system or not. [QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Is there any phenomenon in BSG that travels faster than light? I recall the Cylons saw Baltar’s nuke go off some years later, but I don’t recall how they were following them after they jumped in the first episode or so. [/QUOTE] If memory serves, they stated that the blast was 1 year prior to thier arrival at New Caprica, so 1 light year, I guess. I like that for the most part, they have tried to have a pretty accurate timeline for the show… ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/150 "2009-03-01T01:40:10Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Also, they’re making a big deal out of how many jumps Galactica has left in her, and I think they’re saving those on purpose for the finale, or at least until Cavil shows up. preview spoiler: Dayum, it doesn’t look like the Old Girl will _make it_ to the finale! ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/151 "2009-03-01T01:45:06Z")
> [@Cosmic Relief](#): > > Actually, I don’t think so. The tune Starbuck was plinking out was from notation written by Hera, IIRC. She certainly did seem to have a virtual Cylon experience, but then again so does Baltar. Maybe Baltar’s her half-brother? Kara told Saul that the tune she had been playing was one that her father had taught her. Kara was just as surprised that Hera had written down the tune, too. Hera is plugged in, too. But we’ve known that since her mommy blew away Natalie. (BTW… what was the name of the new delegate Six that Lee congratulated? missed that) > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Is there any phenomenon in BSG that travels faster than light? I recall the Cylons saw Baltar’s nuke go off some years later, but I don’t recall how they were following them after they jumped in the first episode or so. Since the Hub had to be involved, and Rez Ships were required to extend its range, it would seem that resurrection occurs faster than lightspeed could account for. And it’s a little hazy, but Kara’s body getting back to Earth from the Maelstrom planet before the fleet got there may also have occurred FTL. ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/152 "2009-03-01T02:01:10Z")
Sonja is Quorum Six. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/153 "2009-03-01T02:06:03Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > preview spoiler: Dayum, it doesn’t look like the Old Girl will _make it_ to the finale! I haven’t seen the preview yet. I was just thinking a few things: [ul] [li]Galactica only has a few jumps left. That old bird is not going to be mothballed. Oh, no. She’s going out in glory.[/li] [li]They showed us how bad a close FTL jump is.[/li] [li]Cavil is coming with a Basestar. Hmmm. Wonder what a Galactica-sized FTL jump into that would do?[/li][/ul] **anu-la1979** : Sonja is the new delegate on the Quorum of Ships’ Captains. Does that make her captain of the Basestar? ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/154 "2009-03-01T02:09:00Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > Okay, I’m making a pre-emptive call here… > > Before the end of the series, the Rebel BaseStar will be re-Og-ened (like christened, but cooler… 😉 ) “Galactica” and will become the flagship of the RTF, as well as the symbol of Cylon-Human integration > > The Cavilcade will show up, and the show will end with the BaseStar Galactica and the Cavilcade exchanging full-out weapons fire as the show fades to black, the series will not have a conventional ending, we will leave the show open-ended with the BaseStar Galactica and the Cavilcade continuing their battles I really hope not, if only for the reason that it would be a straight up cribbing of the Sopranos. There’s being inspired by the writing in another series and there’s not being original enough to come up with your own fantastically crazy ending. I’d pretty much hate a world where every series ended as people waking up from a dream (Newhart) or with no resolution (Sopranos). It’s cool once, not as interesting the fifth time over. ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/155 "2009-03-01T02:10:28Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I haven’t seen the preview yet. I was just thinking a few things: > > **anu-la1979** : Sonja is the new delegate on the Quorum of Ships’ Captains. Does that make her captain of the Basestar? I have no idea, I was just responding to **Lightray** asking her name. I taped the episode and I think I remember Lee saying something like “Congratulations on your election as the Cylon rep” or something. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/156 "2009-03-01T02:13:43Z")
Yeah, thanks. Sonja? _Red_ Sonja, no doubt, because of Tricia’s (in)famous little red dresses? Oy, with the in-joke names, already. ---
**Author:** ![TooSchoolforCool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tooschoolforcool/32/19621_2.png) [@TooSchoolforCool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TooSchoolforCool)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/157 "2009-03-01T02:55:02Z")
SciFi’s “recap” narration episode also notes, very non-subtly, that the “piano man is gone” after Tigh accosts Starbuck. And implies that Boomer made it out alive, just causing lots of damage in the process. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/158 "2009-03-01T03:06:31Z")
Is the famous Canadian preview available? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/159 "2009-03-01T03:36:34Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Beware the dreaded consecutive post! > > What are we supposed to believe about the _Watchtower_ song: > > Bob Dylan was a space/time traveling bard and also Starbuck’s dad? > > Dylan was a cylon who wrote great music but couldn’t sing? > > “Dylan did not write _All Along the Watchtower_” as a shout out to debunked controversy about _Blowing in the Wind_? > > Two composers on opposite sides of the galaxy wrote the same song? This is a red herring. There is no secret message about Bob Dylan. There is never going to be an explanation. Just like they won’t explain about how the Colonials speak English in a form that is less than 500 years old in accents that are recognizable to us? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684/160 "2009-03-01T03:41:01Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > Just like they won’t explain about how the Colonials speak English in a form that is less than 500 years old in accents that are recognizable to us? Come now, Sir, you nit pick to the extreme. That is Poetic License. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-19-someone-to-watch-over-me-spoilers/487684.md?page=9)