# Battlestar Galactica 4.20 - "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" (spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 6, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567 "2009-03-06T19:16:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/121 "2009-03-10T14:36:37Z")

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I don’t think Cavill or anyone else can engineer a human-clone into a Cylon. The Five only seemed to be able to create eight new model Cylons- perhaps as the only eight viable recombinations of their own DNA? The breeding experiments on Caprica where Starbuck was briefly imprisioned suggest that the Cylons desperately tried to modify human genetic stock, but apparently to no avail. The hybrids seemed to be the best the Cylons could do. That’s why resurrection technology was so crucial: fertility problems seem to be a major limitation for meatbag Cylons.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/122 "2009-03-10T14:42:04Z")

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Although I think that the fertility research part of The Plan would not have been John’s idea – he’s too much a wannabe-robot to think that meatbag fracking is a long-term goal for Cylons. (unless it’s mommy he’s fracking, of course.)

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/123 "2009-03-10T14:48:09Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Yep. While she was sitting on the toilet talking to Baltar there was a definite “water squirting against metal” noise.
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> -Joe

No doubt the DVD will have a deleted/extended scene including a grunt and splash sound effect as well.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/124 "2009-03-10T15:00:51Z")

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Tuuuuuuurducken.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/125 "2009-03-10T15:06:51Z")

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The more I hear about deleted scenes, the less I’m looking forward to the DVDs.

Next: You get to see Adama popping zits and flossing his teeth, with 3D mirror splatter! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/126 "2009-03-10T15:17:39Z")

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And there’s this whole deleted episode where they get caught in the Maelstrom and enter a mirror universe where there’s this other Galactica with an Apollo who looks like Zarek and a Starbuck that’s a guy! And Starbuck and Starbuck meet and … well, you’ll just have to wait for the DVD.

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/127 "2009-03-10T15:50:28Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Yeah…want to put money on that one?
> 
> -Joe

frak it, why not? losing money is better than seeing Basestar Galactica. _hic_

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/128 "2009-03-10T16:05:57Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> No doubt the DVD will have a deleted/extended scene including a grunt and splash sound effect as well.

Funniest thing I’ve read on here on a long time!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/129 "2009-03-10T16:20:46Z")

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Oh, you buncha whiners. Just be thankful they didn’t toss that scene in back when the fleet had a _paper_ shortage.

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**Author:** ![joemama24\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@joemama24\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joemama24_98)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/130 "2009-03-10T19:34:45Z")

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> [@Corner\_Case](#):
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> And there’s this whole deleted episode where they get caught in the Maelstrom and enter a mirror universe where there’s this other Galactica with an Apollo who looks like Zarek and a Starbuck that’s a guy! And Starbuck and Starbuck meet and … well, you’ll just have to wait for the DVD.

I saw the preview: they get in a fight over who has better hair.

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**Author:** ![Monkey\_Chews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Monkey\_Chews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monkey_Chews)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/131 "2009-03-10T23:51:30Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Whatever brought Kara back seems clearly to be connected with whatever exists “between life and death.” That has come up too often with both her and the Final Five to be a red herring.

I noticed that as the Eight was dying in sickbay, after she had said goodbye to Tigh, just as she was slipping away she said, “Too much confusion…”, which is a line from _All Along The Watchtower_.

Something’s definitely out there in that in-between place, and its communicating with them.

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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/132 "2009-03-11T00:45:35Z")

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The final episode is going to end with a fade to black…

And then the lights come on in a bedroom. The covers are torn away to revel Bob Dylan waking from a fevered dream. He reaches over and wakes Emily to tell her about his dream.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/133 "2009-03-12T05:13:31Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Adama is bogarting the joint.

Check out the episode number 😛

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/134 "2009-03-12T05:19:30Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Check out the episode number 😛

OMG, I totally missed that. Hilarious!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/135 "2009-03-12T19:56:57Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> You’re forgetting that Starbuck managed to come back with a brand new Viper, too.

Which had a receiver picking up the emergency locator signal from her old Viper, which had been somehow moved from Maelstrom to Earth, which Starbuck 2.0 knew she had been to herself.

Is there a way to explain that without invoking the aid of some higher power?

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/136 "2009-03-12T20:09:39Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Is there a way to explain that without invoking the aid of some higher power?

A wizard did it.  
No, wait…

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/137 "2009-03-12T20:11:38Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Which had a receiver picking up the emergency locator signal from her old Viper, which had been somehow moved from Maelstrom to Earth, which Starbuck 2.0 knew she had been to herself.
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> Is there a way to explain that without invoking the aid of some higher power?

Are you kidding? Everyone knows Starbuck is the best resurrector in the fleet!

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/138 "2009-03-12T20:46:23Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> A wizard did it.  
> No, wait…

Nuh-UH. _Everyone_ knows that wizards can’t cast _raise dead_ or _resurrection_.

A _cleric_ did it.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/139 "2009-03-12T21:18:16Z")

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And Starbuck is the best…no, by golly, Cavil is the best cleric in the fleet.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-20-islanded-in-a-stream-of-stars-spoilers/488567/140 "2009-03-13T22:48:23Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Nuh-UH. _Everyone_ knows that wizards can’t cast _raise dead_ or _resurrection_.
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> A _cleric_ did it.

A wizard can cast Wish, which being ninth level can easily mimic the effects of a Resurrection.  
As for the not being able to detect the Cylons with an MRI the obvious fanwank is that they have distributed light sensitive (and emitting, remember the orgasmic lightshows) cells in their nervous systems. They can interact with a fiber optic cable because they can detect the light pulses with those cells presumably with the large nerve trunks in their limbs. They control their starships by looking into lighted panels and sticking their hands into lighted pools.

As for uploading, at the moment of death all the cells tap their stored chemical power and blast a very high frequency omnidirectional em-burst that the sensitive antennas on the resurrection ships can detect.

None of that requires anything that would be detectable necessarily by an MRI.

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