# Battlestar Galactica 4.4 "Six of One" (spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 11, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959 "2008-04-11T22:22:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/61 "2008-04-14T22:24:44Z")

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Ahh…I’m the faster wanker! Take THAT!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/62 "2008-04-14T22:38:35Z")

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Both of you have demonstrated most excellent wanking. 🙂

Even if that doesn’t turn out to be the explanation, it certainly should be.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/63 "2008-04-14T22:46:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]

Now that Anders is (presumably) awakened, we seen him unable to kill a Raider.  
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Just to be fair, Anders is a Nugget who couldn’t find his own penis with a sign pointing to it, when it comes to shooting things in a Viper.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/64 "2008-04-14T23:26:29Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
Just to be fair, Anders is a Nugget who couldn’t find his own penis with a sign pointing to it,  
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WTF? Well, gawdam, there it is!

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/65 "2008-04-15T00:16:05Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
Just to be fair, Anders is a Nugget who couldn’t find his own penis with a sign pointing to it, when it comes to shooting things in a Viper.  
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And apart from that being his first combat flight your evidence for that would be…?

ETA: Oh yeah, I’ve been wondering, how did we get a 4.4 in the thread title?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/66 "2008-04-15T00:21:06Z")

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What are we to make of the Battlestar [Last Supper](http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20169703,00.html)?

The missing person at the table is probably the Final One, and would be sitting in the empty space where Peter stood in the original. Peter, as in “Upon this rock…” Just how symbolism-happy is Moore, anyway? 😃

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/67 "2008-04-15T02:06:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
And apart from that being his first combat flight your evidence for that would be…?  
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Uh, further evidence is needed?

Uh, it’s 4.4 because there’s some discussion on the innernets as to where _Razor_ fits in the season, as some consider it two episodes of this season.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/68 "2008-04-15T02:39:10Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
What are we to make of the Battlestar [Last Supper](http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20169703,00.html)?

The missing person at the table is probably the Final One, and would be sitting in the empty space where Peter stood in the original. Peter, as in “Upon this rock…” Just how symbolism-happy is Moore, anyway? 😃  
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According to my calculations, and based on the DaVinci version of the Last Supper, the empty place at the table would be filled by Judas Iscariot…

Roslin = Bartholomew  
Natalie 6 = James the Lesser  
Tigh = Andrew  
? = Judas  
Lee = Peter  
Baltar = John the Evangelist  
Caprica 6 = Jesus  
Starbuck = Thomas  
Anders = James the Greater  
Tyrol = Philip  
Sharon = Matthew  
Helo = Jude  
Bill Adama = Simon

It’s definitely Peter, then John, then Jesus.

I’m not sure how deep the symbolism goes nor how strong the real corespondence is here between each character and the apostle in whose position they are. Probably not very strong. Baltar as John to Six’s Jesus works well. Lee as Peter could also work depending on where they go with him this season. The rest of it, I’m not well-versed enough to say.

So who would fill the role of the Judas most aptly if s/he were revealed to be a Cylon? Moore said that he “inadvertantly” revealed that the Final One is not in the picture. I really can’t venture a guess at this point.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/69 "2008-04-15T03:55:32Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
What are we to make of the Battlestar [Last Supper](http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20169703,00.html)?

The missing person at the table is probably the Final One, and would be sitting in the empty space where Peter stood in the original. Peter, as in “Upon this rock…” Just how symbolism-happy is Moore, anyway? 😃  
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BTW, that pic is available as wallpaper over at [scifi.com](http://scifi.com).

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/70 "2008-04-15T04:35:09Z")

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I know. It’s been my desktop for the last week. 😃

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/71 "2008-04-15T14:20:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Charlie Tan]  
Fairy Of Misdirection\*?  
I saw that scene too, and while it hints that the Raider held back [del][for some unknown reason][/del] to save a fellow toaster, there is still no hard evidence that Anders is, in fact, a Cylon.  
Looking back through the seasons, it’s quite obvious that RDM uses the FOM frequently to build suspense and drama.  
Four Cylon haters hearing some music and winding up in the same place saying - wups, we gotta be toasters - is not enough proof. It’s only circumstantial

\*FOM  
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I’m going to accept the fact that Ander’s iris flashed red as concrete evidence that he’s a cylon. I agree, the raider’s behavior is at best circumstantial, but I’m considering this a callback to the GSP, and solid proof that he’s a cylon.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/72 "2008-04-15T15:52:24Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
I know. It’s been my desktop for the last week. 😃  
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Mine too, I’m such a nerd!

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/73 "2008-04-15T21:12:13Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
…some consider [Razor] two episodes of this season.  
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Most notably, the Sci-Fi Channel.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/74 "2008-04-15T21:33:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF]  
Most notably, the Sci-Fi Channel.  
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But they don’t count as part of the 20 episodes that Sci-Fi ordered as part of Season 4. Season 4 still has 20 episodes, not including Razor.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/75 "2008-04-15T21:36:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Mahaloth]  
But they don’t count as part of the 20 episodes that Sci-Fi ordered as part of Season 4. Season 4 still has 20 episodes, not including Razor.  
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Maybe not in the press guide, but the URL says 4x04:

> **[Battlestar Galactica - Official Site | SYFY](https://www.syfy.com/battlestar-galactica)**
>
> Considered by many to be one of the best television series ever made, Battlestar Galactica picks up just as Cylons - intelligent robots designed by humankind - commit mass genocide against humanity. Only Battlestar Galactica, the last of the Colonial...

So does the [Hulu page](http://www.hulu.com/watch/16981/battlestar-galactica-six-of-one#s-p1-so-i0).

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/76 "2008-04-15T21:47:01Z")

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And the Google Ads have bits on “Becoming a better parent”. Apparently Cavill had better send a copy to Six ASAMFP!

-Joe

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/77 "2008-04-15T21:52:54Z")

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Googla Ads are getting weird! Mine right now are:

Battlestar Galactica  
Discover the Holy Land  
Secret to Killing Scabies  
😃

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/78 "2008-04-15T21:59:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Mahaloth]  
But they don’t count as part of the 20 episodes that Sci-Fi ordered as part of Season 4. Season 4 still has 20 episodes, not including Razor.  
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Officially, SciFi ordered 22 episodes for season 4. The producers chose to combine the first two and make a movie.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/79 "2008-04-15T23:54:13Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
Regarding the Centurions, one thing I thought was (hopefully a deliberate) nice touch was the way they kept looking to Six almost like a parent figure. Sure, they very recently got a higher level of sentience and free will, but they were still looking to Six in a sort of “is this okay mommy?” way.  
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That’s reading a lot into a metal face created by CGI. But I read it as “Are you \*sure \* we want to do this?”

BTW, **Cervaise** , I’m sure you’re right about CapSix saying “Please”, since I only watched it once. But the preview did get across the point that the Sentiurions are no longer commandable.

The number of the counting shall be Five because all the meatbags know there are five left, even if they don’t talk about it. Way back in Season 1, Six even told Baltar there were 12 models total. They could all be wrong, though.

I thought the red dot in Anders’ eye was just a reflection of the Raider’s scanner. The Four have always checked out as human, not even with spine lights.

Which character in the Last Supper photo is really Mary Magdalene? 😃

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-4-six-of-one-spoilers/444959/80 "2008-04-16T00:39:57Z")

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[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]

Which character in the Last Supper photo is really Mary Magdalene?  
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Is there not some sporting event involving a “final five”?

But I digress.  
Indeed, the missing character in the picture and the fifth of the Final Five shall be Boxey.

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