# Battlestar Galactica 4.8 - "Faith" (here there be spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 9, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716 "2008-05-09T16:39:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/121 "2008-05-13T23:18:54Z")
[QUOTE=YPOD] Well, all this has left me confused. What ever happened to the plan the Cylons had? What exactly was that? [/quote] I thought that was the conquest of the Colonies and the extermination of the humans. That last bit seems to be what the task force following the fleet was sent out to do, and what the Cavil faction is still determined to do. > [@](#): > > Now everything seems to revolve around finding earth and who the last unknown Cylons are. That seems to be the goal of the Natalie faction - they’re more interested in exploring religion, and are coming to see the humans as part of a \*greater \* plan - God’s. They were able to restrain the kill-'em-all faction in the Council, perhaps with the argument that the humans could be killed at any time but meanwhile let them find some more inhabitable planets for us to colonize later on, and maybe even Earth with all those other humans we can kill too. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/122 "2008-05-14T20:27:50Z")
Did anyone else get an **Alien Nation** vibe when Roslin appeared without her wig or scarf? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/123 "2008-05-14T21:06:49Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] Did anyone else get an **Alien Nation** vibe when Roslin appeared without her wig or scarf? [/QUOTE] Yeah, but I didn’t recognize it for that. Thanks! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/124 "2008-05-14T23:52:09Z")
I got a Delenn vibe - does that count? Her hair grew in, too. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/125 "2008-05-15T00:19:26Z")
[QUOTE=RickJay] The glowing spine was not a good move. As Mrs. RickJay so eloquently put it, “What, he never did her from behind?” [/QUOTE] No she never \*orgasmed \*from behind. Sheesh. They don’t spine glow when penetrated, they spine glow as their techno organic O face. Most cylon women can’t orgasm from rear entry sex alone. Known fact. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/126 "2008-05-15T14:57:44Z")
Which is pretty ironic, because the whole point of Six seducing Baltar was to get access to the defense mainframe so she could install an easily penetrated back door. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/127 "2008-05-15T15:10:32Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] so she could install an easily penetrated back door. [/QUOTE] You will suffer for this. ---
**Author:** ![beanpod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9adbd/32.png) [@beanpod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beanpod)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/128 "2008-05-15T15:32:31Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] I remember that, but I did not remember exactly how Tyrol was checked out for Cylonhood. Was it the same Cylon detector that Baltar used on Boomer? If so, why didn’t it work? If not, what did they use and why did they think it would work? Also, why would it be so hard to figure out who is and who isn’t a Cylon? Considering that Athena stuck a wire in her arm, there must be some major physiological differences in there somewhere. [/QUOTE] Baltar was slinging the bullshit left and right about the Cylon detector, and they hadn’t quite figured it out yet. He detected Boomer, but was afraid to out her in case she snapped and killed him or (I imagine) somehow revealed his involvement in the destruction of the colonies. I don’t think anyone but him and Head-6 knew that it really worked. As I understand it, he didn’t really test Tyrol, but just lied and said he did. Soon afterward, people started to suspect, “Hey, this Baltar guy’s full of it. He’s probably been lying all along and that Cylon detector was a waste of our resources. He tested Boomer and never told us she was a Cylon, and he’s such a chickenshit that he’d run from her first thing if he knew.” Athena sticking a wire in her arm is a plot hole, but I can figure out an easy fanwank for it: Cylons who know what they are have special abilities to “commune” with machines, and they can control their nerves enough to send deliberate electrical signals and interpret signals from other machines. Why’d she needed to jam it into an artery? Um…it’s easier for them at pressure points? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/129 "2008-05-15T15:44:31Z")
Because I missed the middle of the episode, I thought I’d catch up with TWoP’s [recaps](http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/battlestar_galactica/faith_2.php?page=1), which I haven’t read in a while… Sheesh. Jacob really, really needs an editor. There’s so much overwrought prose that it’s almost useless as a recap. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/130 "2008-05-15T15:57:39Z")
Bite your tongue. I find Jacob’s works to be an art form in an of themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/131 "2008-05-15T17:20:25Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] Because I missed the middle of the episode, I thought I’d catch up with TWoP’s [recaps](http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/battlestar_galactica/faith_2.php?page=1), which I haven’t read in a while… Sheesh. Jacob really, really needs an editor. There’s so much overwrought prose that it’s almost useless as a recap. [/QUOTE] THANK YOU! I have to agree. Oh course, I still read them, but man. I thought TWOP is about snark, not…whatever that is. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/132 "2008-05-15T20:13:08Z")
[QUOTE=acsenray] Bite your tongue. I find Jacob’s works to be an art form in an of themselves. [/QUOTE] Yes, that is the problem. It’s supposed to be a site to talk about tv, for which they summarize what’s happened in their recaps. Derivative prose art that is a meditative flit through the program doesn’t help. … also, it reads kind of like really bad fanfic. And some of the fora comments read like fanboi gushing over (really bad) fanfic. And that makes me twitch and totally understand the high school bully impulse, which I do not find a pleasant thing. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/133 "2008-05-15T20:46:28Z")
[QUOTE=beanpod] …Athena sticking a wire in her arm is a plot hole, but I can figure out an easy fanwank for it: Cylons who know what they are have special abilities to “commune” with machines, and they can control their nerves enough to send deliberate electrical signals and interpret signals from other machines. Why’d she needed to jam it into an artery? Um…it’s easier for them at pressure points? [/QUOTE] And the Cylons control their own technology with that control water on their ships. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716/134 "2008-05-15T21:08:11Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] Because I missed the middle of the episode, I thought I’d catch up with TWoP’s [recaps](http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/battlestar_galactica/faith_2.php?page=1), which I haven’t read in a while… Sheesh. Jacob really, really needs an editor. There’s so much overwrought prose that it’s almost useless as a recap. [/QUOTE] Thank you! That’s been bugging me for two seasons. I can’t even read those recaps, even if I wanted to set aside the 45 minutes to do so. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-4-8-faith-here-there-be-spoilers/448716.md?page=6)